mary1947 2,079 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Is there any member who can answer the question of why The Fox and Grapes is called Pretty Windows? Each time I pick up the Evening Post or Bygones they keep stating the reason is because of the intricate pattern in the windows. I was told by my father in law in the sixty's that the reason the pub was called Pretty Windows was that after the poacher's had been out poaching they used to hang the game on the spikes of the windows sills so that people could buy them. Can any member tell me if this is right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Mary I to have heard the story about the hanging of game. I didn't give it much credence do to the fact there could be no better way of attracting the attentions of the Old Bill. As to whether its is correct I am sure someone will explain. Colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poohbear 1,360 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 . I didn't give it much credence due to the fact there could be no better way of attracting the attentions of the Old Bill. Exactly what I was about to type before reading your post... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,079 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hi Newbasfordlad and Phoobear Considering that my father in law was in his 70s I think his story is better than the Evening Post as he would be talking of the 40s 50s and I think in that time most of the P.C. would be customers of the poachers. Also I would think that they went in the back door of the pub for a pint. I just wonder if there was any actual fact in history which would confirm why the pup was called "Pretty Windows" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Compo 10,328 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 There may have been a referrence to this in an older topic "The perfect murder". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Compo 10,328 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 This should take you to it. See post #7 http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8831 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,079 Posted August 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 thanks Compo mary 1947 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 I think it was simply the design of the big windows on the front. One thing for sur. It certainly aint pretty now. (mind you neither am I) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Limey 242 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Looks like the police are still interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-23990411 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 I always thought it was something to do with the scruffy curtains or even the views of the clientele through the windows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,507 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Didn't the 'infamous' Stu Morris run this pub at one time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Who is/was Stu Morris ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poohbear 1,360 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Local heavy. Not a Sally Army type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,507 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 He's a well known character from the 60's / 70's. Tall and completely bald, which in those days was unusual. I first knew him at the Dungeon and then would see him at other city clubs, minding the doors. I remember Stu as a really nice lad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Stu did run Peggers for a while. Was a mate of my BiL Graham 'Dusty' Mapleston, also knocked around with member 'Jan', who now is the landlord of the 'Gedling Club' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,681 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 This silent news clip ......50 years tomorrow ! http://www.macearchive.org/Archive/Title/midlands-news-11091963-nottingham-murder/MediaEntry/6401.html and a later interview with the fuzz http://www.macearchive.org/Archive/Title/midlands-news-23101963-nottingham-murder-interview-with-policeman/MediaEntry/6535.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Commo 1,292 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Poor old Mr Gerard didn't have much of a clue did he? He did his best to waffle for a couple of minutes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,681 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 " he was a 5 foot 10 or 11 . Substantially built .........Appeared to be of working class but alleged the clothing of a better type of person " Huh ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,456 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 If he was working on it, that probably explains why the case was never solved at the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Shame Nipper Read was busy with the Krays Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lim 1 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Does any one recall a man called stanly mackelroy ? Also known as " mac the knife" known in the meadows and seniton area ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Welcome to Nottstalgia, Lim. I look forward to reading your posts and sharing your memories. I see that you've put your message on a couple of other threads. Are you trying to trace him or are you just wondering if anyone knew him?. When did he use to be around Sneinton and the Meadows?. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AfferGorritt 868 Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I lived just up Carlton Road from the Pretty Windows. My grandma and grandad said it was called that 'cos of the stained glass which ran across the bottom of the pub windows. I'd just turned 15 at the time and remember the police calling at our house during the house to house investigations. Several coincidences that I didn't notice 'til recently .... Look at ... http://www.nottinghampost.com/search/search.html?searchPhrase=pretty+windows&where= In the "16 unsolved murders.." photos Arthur Cope is top right. In the "Cold case cops etc.." photos, the photo on the right is an artists impression of someone who the police thought might be able to help them. Not too far off, is it? The murder weapon was found near Radcliffe. Shortly after a caravan on a Radcliffe site was burnt out. Mr Cope was murdered in a caravan in Radcliffe a year after George Wilson was killed. Oo-er! Did Arthur Cope see something he shouldn't have???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,456 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Ironic that it was also known as Pretty Windows. At the moment, it doesn't have many windows at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blondie 1,392 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I can remember that murder as my Uncle Geoff worked for Jessie Robinson's fish market and told us a about a man called Arthur Cope........never ever solved......funny that !!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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