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BUMP Oh my goodness, Is there any hope for me? I've been at it again. We arranged to take daughter shopping to the big Tesco at Dudley. As we were all ready to go and I had my Gilet on, open down the front. The weather looked promising and i only had a few minutes to spare, so I clipped a dozen pegs all down the the side of the open zip and dashed outside to peg the washing out. Anyway later when we had finished the shopping, after walking around the store for about an hour. I had noticed a few smiles but just thought how friendly Dudley people were! At the till,

Up-speak mentioned before its now almost normal.........just listened to a woman on the news.........''we were walking near the PARK?''.......when i saw this man with a SHOTGUN?...........i was really AFRAID?.......I had my child WITH ME?.........and on it went..........grrr ...........

Trams would be ok if they had their own tracks, away from the public highway, so that if they broke down, as they do regularly, the traffic flow would be unaffected.. They could be called trains - or has that been thought of already?

Much bigger problem in Nottingham Rog, I think every university town or city has these problems. I would make a start by making them pay council tax, why should they be exempt ? If they can afford to get boozed up every weekend they can afford to pay their way in life like all the rest of us.

I hope to god that never happens to me, don't wear .............night attire......

I said earlier on that people often remind me of animals. I think of myself as feline. As a friend put it, quoting Kipling, "I am the cat that walks by himself...." I can identify with that! Miaaw!

Be happy the best advice to give/receive............plough your own Furrow, Dad always told me that........two great bits of advice.......always bounce back after set-backs, an absolute must,........most of us have em, think its vital in life........

Thats the way Jill........never follow the herd.........none of my kids have been followers..........they all do it their way.........they all turned out great with their own minds......... Edit............they all tell me what they think of me as well............Little gits..........lol.

I was a student twice. First time, studying externally over 4 years. Did I go out on the binge every night? No chance. Had to be at work the next day! Spare time was for studying. It was tough but I enjoyed it and, in any case, I'm far too anti social to want to attend university the conventional way! Second time was a one year post graduate course which meant full time attendance at lectures. Hated it but ploughed through it successfully.

I'd have thought someone would have jumped in after Fly's post. David Shepherd liked his wildlife and Hugh Hefner liked his wildlife also, aka bunnies.

I always sort of thought that the whole of Nottingham and surroundings were built on the 'Bunter Sandstone'. I was wrong.. http://www.nottshistory.org.uk/monographs/bulwell1946/bullwell2.htm Fascinating stuff. Written 70 years ago but so prescient. Col

Students enjoying "Fresher's Week" My Ar$e. NEP last week. http://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/six-students-fined-given-formal-660887

Fly I thought as you that the thread was about students so I think it was the wrong place for your gripe about the city council , which I agree with you on. But I thought politics is banned so I will not get involved with it , if you would like to meet some time as I am more than willing to discuss that topic with you, I think you will find we have many areas of agreement. As for students I have a grandson who is in his 3rd year ,when he started I think he was like most other students happy to be away from parents watchful eye and not to listen to granddads advice. Like many of us on starting

We had a student house in Loughborough for a number of years, we bought it when our eldest son was in his first year at Uni there and began looking around for a house to rent with his new mates. It worked out well for us until a group of Chinese students rented it. At the end of their tenancy we went in to prepare for the next lot and were greeted by a very dirty house full of rubbish to clear. They must have been going back to China with only hand luggage as they left all their Uni course work, text books and lots of clothes, including a very nice pair of Christian Dior trousers which were

There are a lot more options open the councils these days with regard to eco transport, Gas fuelled buses,self contained electric buses, and if they must use overhead wires why not a modern version of the trolley bus,at least if they break down or the overhead wires fail they could be driven off the road to allow other traffic to continue,they could even be towed away for repair in a bus shed not left in the road waiting for fitters to come out to them Rog

You can if you live in Bulwell! I can walk to my local station and catch a train to Nottingham, Newark or Lincoln. City dwellers can catch a bus to almost anywhere. Buses can go up into the estates and provide a convenient door to door service. You’ve got to live on or near a tram route for that to be of any use.

Those police could and would want to be better employed fighting real crime not stupid irresponsible pranks,how much did it cost the council for the police to attend that? the cost of which will ultimately be passed down to the council tax payer, are the fines the student recieved going to pay for repairs to the wall or end up in Trent university coffers? Rog

Foreign students in Lincoln tend to be fairly courtious and polite and reasonably quiet,thats not to say they aren't a pain in the ar$e when they are in their own room,one of the Chinese student told me at the beginning or term that they are ambassadors for their country and need to show their hosts (the UK) they are a respectful people,might have been a load of propaganda who knows, when I was in Lincoln on Thursday on one of my trike rides I happened to be in the "student quarter" riding towards the Brayford pool, there was a few immature comments from some of the students and some quite fri

TBI / trogg, nobody is knocking students, as we all know that they enhance the economy, and we all know it's not all of them. As in every walk of life , it's the small minority that ruin things for the rest. My gripe is not with students, as in my formative years, I have been known to imbibe in the odd pint, stumble occasionally, even be obnoxious at times. My gripe is with the council who seem completely obsessed with ignoring the needs of the many good, honest, hard working salt of the earth people who inhabit this once fair city, and are bending over backwards to appease every obscure

That 35% isn't at home bringing up a young family, or even out with girlfriends and workmates. They have money in their pockets, and are let loose for the first time in their lives in a strange town most likely.

Thats my Brother from another Mother

Wish we could have bread, butter, biscuits, bags of crisps, sugar, salt & that milk with the cream on the top, not allowed

Attitudes towards students isn't a new thing. Whatever you think of them, through the years students have always upset some of the older generation. Most Nottstalgians will remember the student protests of the 60s and 70s (and might even have taken part). Everyone else at the time thought the students were idiots and should've been studying, not complaining about Vietnam or Chairman Mao.

Good point Mike,they use the services that some of the council tax pays for,,police,street cleaners,bin men etc so why not charge them, another section of the community that thinks we owe them Rog

One of the main topics bought up on the program was the amount of money it costs to police these students,the highest cost is from when the universities start at the end of summer going through to Christmas when the new students seem to go crazy having their new found "freedom" without their parents to guide them,then there is the sudden exposure to the drug scene and all the trouble that goes with that, funnily enough one of the panel members on the program stated it was not the local youths that needed policing as they were kept in "check" either by their parents or their peers. I can o

The City Council used to clean the streets in the middle of the night years ago, I remember in my teens staying til Goose Fair closed on the Saturday night and walking down Mansfield Road with my pals to go to the Beachcomber where there was an all-nighter going on. The Council were washing Mansfield Road at that time, but perhaps it was only because of Goose Fair. As it happened, our little crowd didn’t have enough money to get in the Beachcomber as we’d spent too much at the Fair, we ended up hanging around outside til daylight then going home. Couldn’t go home any earlier as we’d all lie

I see that the 'singer' Rita Ora, is going to bring up her forthcoming baby as a 'non gender', meaning she won't be dressing it as a boy or a girl. Then I read that the 'comedian ' Russell Brand and his wife are doing the same. I nearly vomited with excitement ! I then read that Katie Price is looking for an American surrogate mother for some other offspring she has in mind. The world has gone stark staring bonkers !

So can I. Hhooowwwwllll

I've lost track if I've ever posted this before. Several Barton buses at the old Broad Marsh.

Wouldn't be the first time I've been out, got out the car and found I've still got me slippers on. Wasn't even in Mansfield either...

Too bleddy right...lol.. noisy, mucky boggers Whilst I'm generally very pro-student, I can fully accept the down-side. My points have all been in response to students being targeted as a separate problem, ignoring the fact that non-student youngsters are a bigger problem.

"Not in my back yard" TBI? Rog

Would you be looking at frieght or passenger traffic, a made up line or would you base it on a particular line,say GC in Nottingham, or something from the Midland station toward Colwick, There's plenty of info on model rail sites on the web,I'm not a model rail way builder or owner myself but I do like to see a good layout, there's plenty of youtube video's as well Rog

A great bit of history there Col. Fascinating. Thanks for posting it.

That's why I've never rented to students, too many horror stories from other landlords I know. I'm not the sort to take kindly to having my property abused.

TBI, I don't want to get embroiled in a long running argument, but I'm certain that many residents of Beeston would think differently.

And in the case of some rails we recently hear about Re-install rails, they dint last long did they? Rog

I think the 'sudden burst of freedom" mentality is perhaps the main reason students do what they do. When they arrive in their new university town, it's the first time they've been out of sight and control of their parents. Consequently they go mad and do everything they were told not to do. Eventually it wears off and they calm down.

In all fairness, I don't think it's relevant, as the foreign students in the main, are more well behaved, more respectful, and far more grown up than some of ours.

Wasn't knocking the students TBI, just saying what the debate was bringing up on Notts TV from councillors, ex police,general public,I know they bring money into the local economy as I stated in one of my posts but one comment from the program was the costs involved in policing and cleaning up after them outweighs what they put into the economy, no doubt we all have different experiences with student either directly through friends/relatives or indirectly through stepping through the mess they leave behind or being josstled in the high street when trying to navigate passed a crowd of them,

UK students as a % of total UK citizens in that age group is approximately 35%. Therefore it's reasonable to assume twice as many young folk out carousing, vomiting everywhere and generally making a nuisance of themselves and needing policing are NOT students. There's always been students, there's always been those who moan about them and it will probably always be so. Students bring a benefit to their local economies and also provide many jobs off the back of that. Why knock them?

Look what it says on the bus ! BARTON , Barton's were the owners of the company. In another topic, I mentioned a 'Barton Farm' up the A614. The writing on the farm sign at the roadside is identical to the Barton Bus Co logo. Presumably the same owners. Anyone verify ?

I read that tram delays are running into a second day because of an overhead line fault. It doesn’t bother me - we don’t even have a bus, but tram users must be tearing their hair out once more. Oh when will they ever learn? (The City Council that is)

Not saying that students are idiots Kev, far from it but I think some of the so called problem lies with these students coming from different parts of the UK and in some cases different parts of the world (although foreign students tend to be better behaved from what I have seen) therefore are unaware of the "way we do things around here" different cultures if you like to their own, perhaps they behave differently in their home cities where there is a possibility of someone knowing them but in a different city the chances of that happening are a lot less therefore no one to keep them in check

I can remember collecting cardboard boxes, crates, bits of wood, and any thing else that would burn for weeks before bonfire Night. I used to save my pocket money for weeks to buy Standard Fireworks from the newsagents on Ilkeston Road (opposite the picture house). Can't remember his name though. I lived in Radford on Faraday Road, around the corner from Miall Street. We used to build a big bonfire in the street just outside Camms Coaches garage which just about everybody in the street came to. Bonfire Toffee, Toffee Apples, and the smell of fireworks. Heaven!

Sadly, most local councils are very cash strapped these days due to central govt. cuts, plus being loaded with a lot of stuff which central Govt doesn't want to take on because it is only going worse. ( Social Care for e.g.) Bit political though.. so I'll say no more on it. Col

Exactly Col. One dollop this morning was actually in the corner of a shop doorway. Yes, and for all our denigrating of Europe, they at least keep their main city and town centre streets clean. Switzerland actually have cleansing tankers round most city streets spraying the pavements and then brushing it with a swirling thing.

St Helens is not a university town but it is my nearest town. It too is left in a mess after lots of mostly young people descend on it. They are not generally students. What annoys me mostly is that the owners of the bars and takeaways which sell the stuff which ends up on the pavement outside their premises, make no effort to clean it up themselves. Most of us will have seen the way that continental and mediterranean countries have a very different attitude and simply wash down all 'sidewalks' every morning. Col

There was vomit this morning on Parliament St, King St, and Long Row.... The early hours..... No 12 noon !

The enjoyable but unseasonal warm days of last week have given way to the misty, damp, cooler weather which has started me thinking about Bonfire Night. Haloween didn't really feature when I was kid (I was born in 1950) but Bonfire Night was a brilliant event which I really looked forward to. IIRC some of the newsagents around Forest Fields started selling fireworks in early October certainly before Goose Fair was over. Remember when if the 5th of November fell on a Sunday (which it did in 1961) the celebrations were moved usually to the Saturday? I can't remember when that wen