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When I said there were no statues to wilberforce I meant to convey his lack of recognition by the african nations After all you would think he would be revered for his work on the abolition of slavery but no they prefer a man who was prepared to kill and maim people for his political ambitions My grandfather gave his life in 1918 fighting for freedom that includes freedom of speech I dont mind anyone disagreeing with me thats their right to express an opinion Political correctness tries to deny that right Tommy robinson shows how far a so called democratic government is prepared to go to st

Had a date with a Waitress from the Grovesnor name of Linda,,don't know if it was same one Fly,tall skinny lass with short blonde hair.....be about 1968........went in 2 or 3 Pubs in town,,and i noticed the same bloke appearing in every Pub......pointed him out to her,, she said ''yes my husbands hired him he gets every where'' did'nt even know she was married.......our romance did'nt last long......lol

To say that political correctness has little to do with free speech shows a naivety of epic proportions karl marx used it to control the population easily this self censorship is an insidious cancer in our society and a means of gagging opposing views European investment built south africa yes they were exploited but so was everyone here by victorian mill and coal mine owners We have seen the destruction of the BNP UKIP Britain first leaders jailed and now the EDL This is not coincidence this is a concerted campaign The fact that we are now a minority in our own capital city shows the madne

What happened to the art of shop workers counting your change back to your hand? One, two, three, three fifty. three fifty five & two pence. Thank you.

Not trying to have the last word on anything Graham. I think most if not all of my posts in this thread have addressed a different comment. But, when people post stuff which is factually incorrect, such as the stuff about Marx above, I just like to put things straight. I've said this many times. People are entitled to their views, but I don't believe people are entitled to support their views with inaccurate information, or to make potentially imflammatory statements without expecting a response. A couple of things I'd like to respond to a bit later, because I owe tho

By `ell Col, if this is you having the last word on the subject I'm glad that you're not going to keep going!

Smart tills happened which give the amount of change to be given. Recently I bought something 52 pence. Gave a pound but then said I've got the 2 and handed 2p over. Total confusion for the assistant who gave the 2p back and then 48p. Hadn't a clue.

This one is at the top of my list for winding me up. Sooooooooo, I devised a plan! You see at my age, I am a bit slow and when I have had a receipt and lots of cash /notes in change plonked in my hand, not surprisingly my hand being quite small, drops the lot, (very carefully, so as not to lose any) on to the counter. I fumble about, trying to pick it up, then I have to add it all up, slowly of course, to make sure it's all there. Serves the Bo99ers right. One giggly OAP, totters out of the shop, leaving behind a really rude assistant, who now has quite a queue of impatient customers to c

No, as I've mentioned previously, Linda, a girl who had a flat in my mates house in The Park worked there, and after the crowds had dispersed, she invariably treated a few of us to Russian coffees. Purely to use up the cream of course, as it rarely stayed fresh, even in the fridge. Well that was our excuse !

Col, Corbyn gives every impression of being highly anti semetic you may not like the fact but it stares most people in the face. As to large corporations stealing tax money that that could be seen as slander they do not steal they play by the rules as they are. Now these rules may well need changing but at this time they are the rules. I have been a tax payer all my life and at 72 am still paying taxes but as a self employed person different rules apply to me rather than PAYE and I have no hesitation in telling the world I will only pay what I have to. Not a penny more

Anyone who thinks Dianne Abbott warrants a cabinet position is dangerous in the extreme !

Some very long winded posts Col, and I gave up halfway through the first. I was always told that anyone who goes overboard with their explanations has lost the argument. However, you'll no doubt give us your last, last, last word on the subject.

Yes Colin, I too loved Maggie and wish Mrs May had her strength and qualities. We certainly wouldn’t be in this mess if Maggie was in power. Oops, sorry for getting political.

Col, it's a very good job your here to put everyone right, when they are 'factually incorrect' but do tell me what make you so sure your always right, even I make the odd mistake, yes you heard it here folks NBL makes the odd mistake. By the way Col you never got back about Corbyn's anti Semitism, even Tom Watson as now stated 'Labour face's eternal shame' over anti-Semitism. Me I loved Mrs T, wish there was someone like here now the country needs it.

Why do you need to 'understand' us? Bit of an impossible task, I reckon! (But not because we are complicated, it's more that you are only men!)

I go to a quiz at a local club, if we win we get £5 vouchers. Take the voucher to the bar and hand it over with a bank note to buy a round of drinks, barmaid says you can't get change from the voucher, I don't want change from the voucher I want change from the bank note, total confusion.

Not guilty. Yes it always had to be brown sugar, the soft one not demarara. Cold double cream over spoon whichever is easiest. The trick if you're not too sure about it is to get the tip of the spoon on or very near coffee surface and pour slowly. You quicken up with practice. Went to see mum this morning and asked her if she knew what Bernis used on their steaks. From what she could remember was oil, salt and pepper and she said meat tenderiser. I think that was MG.u As regards the steaks , the grills were very powerfull they sealed the meat immediately . It kept the steaks jui

Did you "Tip" em FLY ?

The first left guy is Mike Jameson. Sons and Lovers together with other Nottingham Bands are able to be found on the playedinaband.com site. Regards, Will2017

Col I don't know if Corbyn is an anti-Semitic, I hope not, but what I do know is he has made some very half-hearted denials Remember the London mural depicting the hook nosed Jews controlling the world? and the praise he gave it? When challenged that it was anti-Semitic Corbyn’s defence was that he was supporting free speech. He quickly gave this up when it was pointed out that on another occasion he said that respecting other communities is more important than free speech (this was in 2006). His second defence was that he just didn't look at the mural very c

We won !

We all have our own Political opinions and leanings and that’s why we should refrain from getting into such discussions. Nothing will change my mind regarding politics, no matter what a Nottstalgian or anyone else says and in fact this is possibly the first time I’ve ever commented on here about anything political because I don’t like to stir. So let’s get back to the title of this thread WORLD WAR ONE

No greenflies to eat FLY. Well not on our ‘estate’ anyway! Which reminds me of about 25 years ago when we lived in Hertfordshire we planted a pretty long Beech hedge. Greenfly were attacking it before it got going. We bought a big spray thingy back-pack contraption and sprayed it every single evening for weeks and weeks. It was a full-time job dealing with the aphids. We were successful in the end and finally had a fantastic hedge.

In those days (from May 1979 through most of the 80s) we had a strong leadership and Government. Today I couldn’t tell you who holds a particular Government Office, they’re all nondescript individuals. If Labour were in power it would be the same ....... never heard of the majority of them, except Corbyn and Diane Abbott!!

I’m with you all the way Brew. Auto electronics are basically simple. I sometimes think that they want to over- complicate things just because they can. If you understand Ohms law and Newton’s laws of motion you can solve most problems - other than women of course!

Because my eyes are getting worse, I sometimes have problems working out which coins are which (yes, I know that they are different shapes and sizes but some look very similar I think). In a supermarket I hand over notes and get change, but in our local village Spar, I sometimes tip out my change on the counter and let the person on the till take what is needed. We're an honest lot round here ....I think!

Meeowed has a point I think many agree with - political correctness is strangling free speech to the detriment of all. Who here truly speaks their mind for fear of falling foul of the censors? He's totally wrong about Marx. There is a delicious irony here in that if he read Das Kapital, the first volume, he would be forced to agree with him. Marx used the very situation Meeowd quotes, the exploitation of workers by Victorian mill owners, as evidence for his economic theories. Had he said Corbyn's idol Lenin then that would make far more sense. I could expand this furth

Took me a minute to get what you were referring to there. Karl Marx never used anything to control anybody. Karl Marx was a Sociologist and Political -EconomicTheorist. He died in 1883. Long before the term Political Correctness was invented. As far as I know, he never held any form of political office. He had many interesting ideas, but some of his major predictions never came true. For example, he expected revolution to start in the Western Industrialised nations, whereas it actually started in Russia. His grave is in Highgate Cemetary in London. A Communist Plot.

Started the onion harvest today, first half put to dry. Last years harvest provided onions for the year, a first for me just hoping for the same again. For gardeners these are Red Fen grown in revitalised MPC compost.

Nice one carnie,,i too tend to cause a queue at the till,,i always seem to have loads of change in my purse (yes i use a purse) i then begin counting the coins making sure i get rid of the smallest first,,often drop some among the sweets and on the floor (its me shaky finger) this mostly happens in the small newsagents in Bulwell,,and the line of people behind start ''tutting'' much banter then ensues,,like 'come on bleddy hell'' ''change a sodding note'' ''we'll be hear all day'' love it...........sometimes the owner,, who i get on really well with,, takes me purse and helps himself,,saying y

It certainly is a sprawling debate..that is for sure. Fly and my late night comments originally alluded to the fact... there has been a lack of national pride present in England. I have noticed it..as an Englishman abroad...People who seem to control our country..often seem disinclined to wave the Cross of St.George. They lick up to certain sections of the populace. Why was the Asian child sex ring hidden...how can Luton demonstrators shout "kill the Police". Small incidents..in the scheme of things..but in truth our only interaction is thru' community do gooders or kebab shops

Fly, I don't think anybody here is singling out England, or Britain for special condemnation. Conquest and colonisation were the normal way of conducting geo -politics from almost the dawn of time and I don't believe we Brits were any better or worse than anybody else overall. It is true that many of our former colonies continued to adopt similar education systems and so on, but many have been rather less successful at achieving a working democracy after independence against a background of tribal and other political forces which work against it. A similar 'post colonial' pattern is eviden

Are we to suppose that Corbyns well documented support for the ira is all an establishment plot to discredit him as are his 'alleged' anti Semitic views.

Thanks katyjay, jonab and commo, Bugga, I've drunk all the Bushmills trying to get it right. I don't take sugar so that may be the problem. Shopping tomorrow for some brown sugar, Bushmills and single and double cream. In the interest of science I don't want to get it right the first time, it could well take a few tries

Ha ha, no, I didn't want it to be seen as bribery ! LOL

Thanks this is the best about Nottstalgia, you have all reminded me about films that I like but forgot about, now to find the time to look for them and hide away and watch them.

One of the secrets of the "Guinness" looking coffees was that the coffee itself was loaded with sugar. The high density of this bottom layer enabled the less dense cream to float on the top. I remember the looks of despair on the faces of the staff when someone requested their coffee to be unsugared.

They used to float it over the back of a spoon I think.

I've just come in after an evening of highly irresponsible boozing and carousing. I shall resume this fascinating discussion tomorrow. Night all.

Like Commo said it was The Royal on High Street Long Eaton Later became Credos, I believe it is now closed

Definitely. I was loading 7 large bags of rubbish to take to the tip on Wednesday, just as the bin wagon came down the road. The driver got the two lads to sling them in the truck which saved me a trip. Earlier in the day, I'd been to Hucknall tip with sections of a double bed, and the two chaps there unloaded the car for me. Such help and friendliness is almost unheard of these days.

At the top of the last page I wrote about coming across a huge car boot sale near Wrexham. One of the things I picked up there was a Wasgij jigsaw puzzle. Ever since someone posted theirs on here, I've been intrigued. The one I bought was only £4 and still in the wrapper. Today I opened it and there are 2 1000 piece puzzles in the box, the one advertised and a bonus puzzle. I have no clue what picture this one will turn out to be, then again I have no idea what the original one will look like either!

Impressed by your mention of Liberia Col..........and its Slavery roots, I love History and Geography always have done,, once interviewed a bloke in Manchester,took an instant dislike to him,,first he sat sideways not looking me in the eye......then he answered his phone while i was talking to him,obviously he stood no chance of getting a job with me.,but i carried on and asked him where he was from, Liberia he said ,with contempt in his voice,adding you would'nt know even where it is''........red rag to a Bull now, told him the Capital (monrovia) when it was formed by ex slaves from

Which statue of William Wilberforce doesn’t exist? The one outside his birthplace in Hull or the one in Westminster Abbey?

Very simplistic Col but both of us know the colonisation of South Africa was much more complicated than that. The Dutch were the first to go there to establish a stop over and replenishment site for the Dutch East India Company 1652 what was to become Cape Colony. We followed and took over 1795 and from there until the early 20th century it changed hands several time. The Act of Segregation was introduce in 1909 by the first prime minister General Botha, don't sound very English do he. Wrong I agree but two wrongs do not make a right and both Gandhi and late

Ay up me duck - new guy here. Used to play sax and sing in the Mike Miller Band at Nottingham Palais in the 70s. Our 2nd band there was Tristram Shandy - it still had the revolving floor in the Bali Hai then haha. Also worked at Banner Agency Nottingham, where we looked after Sons & Lovers, Clockwork Toys, Colours of Love, WhichWhat, Gingerbread, Rainbow Cottage, Jaffa Band et al. We also handled Mud, Sweet, Shakin' Stevens, and I "discovered" a group called the Elizabethans, playing in a Working Mens' Club in Leeds in the early 70s, who we signed up. They became Smokey, and we handed the

I heard he never did a days work in his life !

Our lad used to look more like Robert Smith than Robert Smith..... make-up and all. He used to write and perform similar songs in a Cambridge band called Hollow Land in the mid eighties. They once took part in the Cambridge Rock Festival but at this point were modelling themselves more on Fields of the Nephilim, even throwing flour over their hats and clothes to look as though they'd just walked in from the desert! They had fun but didn't take it very seriously. Of course he's now a 51 year old family man and definitely doesn't have Robert Smith's hair style any more!! His music was v

Love the chuckle brothers....................so daft I have laugh..............lol.

You always were enthusiastic Rog, as an aircraft keen type how about my several hundred colour slides of the making of the 'Memphis Belle', or stumbling across and walking round the just arrived silver B-17 (to become 'Sally B') parked at the side of the road at a disused airfield called Duxford back in the 70's, or an SR-71 Blackbird doing a high speed, low level fuel dump and burn more or less over the top of my head at Mildenhall, it'll take forever to upload that lot!! I have more of Trowell Junction in colour, photo's of a very unique and special event taken in the early 70's and of anot