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  1. 5 points
    I for one loved school. Grew up on a Council Estate, passed the 11+ and went to Grammar School. Not a perfect school but always grateful for a good education. Both my Mum and Dad passed to go to Grammar School in the early 30's, but neither set of parents could afford for them to go
  2. 4 points
    There are many pro's and cons for both systems. I was in a secondary school which was probably best for me. I liked working with my hands and picked up the electrical trade fairly quickly. In Canada I got a master's cert' in electrical which allowed me to start my own business. I did o-k. That highlights another weakness in the 11/13 plus method. We develop at different paces. I got a theology degree in later life. I was not ready for that in my teens and twenties. I don't know much about the comprehensive system but on the surface it seems like a really brilliant kid could be held back and bored by the need for classes to cater to the slowest as well as the bright. There will never be true equality in this old world. Some rise to the top quickly. Some, like me are plodders but we get there. Some, for a variety of reasons never seem able to make it or don't even want to, it takes effort. Great discussion, but I doubt we can resolve it to everyone's satisfaction.
  3. 4 points
    Whichever school I had attended, be it grammar, comprehensive, bilateral or independent, I'd have hated it and whinged about it. I hated school per se. From the age of 4, I had to be dragged there every morning, kicking and screaming. If I'd been allowed to stay at home and read the encyclopedia, I'd have acquired all the knowledge I needed and been blissfully happy at the same time. The problem, for me, is that those who purport to know how education best achieves its aims, have the idea that children need to spend 6 or 7 hours a day with other children and that, for me, is a huge factor in my extreme dislike of school.
  4. 4 points
    Well I got other abilities from my parents who ran their own business that they built up from scratch. If everyone got off their backsides, and not let others wet nurse them, strive for perfection, aimed for a better lifestyle, took some responsibility, then there'd be no underdogs. I'm sick to the back teeth of reading idealistic claptrap. It's a big rough world out there, and the sooner some realise that, the better.
  5. 2 points
    Today we decided to go to have a fish and chip lunch at a little historical town in the heart of the Black Country. Bilston. Very down to earth people, you must be very careful not to let your gaze settle on a person, as you would soon know about it. I like to visit the market, and the main street is flat, great for our daughter as she sometimes has difficulty walking. Today, as we waited outside a pharmacy as daughter was inside purchasing, we couldn't believe our eyes. Walking down the paved high street, not a care in the world was a sight hard to believe. Two rather large ladies chatting away and laughing very loudly They wore fluffy flip flop style slippers, three quarter length flannelette pyjama leggings, one wore Pink fluffy short dressing gown and the other black and white polkadots. This was in the middle of town? They disappeared into a charity shop, so we followed with daughter. Inside, they were joined by a third person dressed the same. Hard not to stare, but definitely dangerous to do so. I believe in live and let live, but in the middle of town, pyjamas.... Not a good vision?
  6. 2 points
    sorry about the orientation..Tommy Lawton shows of his Mapperley Park house.
  7. 2 points
    I think a lot of this problem lies with petty jealousies, envy, and the desire to have something for little effort.
  8. 2 points
    Certainly FLY, but did you need a Grammar School place for those facets, could you ( or anyone else ) have got the same grounding for future life in a different type of school. As other have said, Grammars were there purely for promoting academic success for the brightest. As you and others have said, and rightly so, life is about making the most of things irrespective of education. I agree with that but that's not the point. It was never a level playing field. If there are 100% of children and 20% go to a Grammar, that leaves 80%. Are they all of the same level of intelligence, of course not. If for example, the lowest 50%, and that's a lot, were more fitted to senior or comprehensive schools, what about the other 30% in the middle. Nearly a third of children got lumped in with the lowest. That's got to be unfair and unequal. I was Grammar educated, have a degree, was lucky and worked very hard throughout my career to achieve success. I could be forgiven for promoting the Grammar ethos, look at me. One thing I've always done though, is look out for the underdog. It wasn't a fair system and let far too many down who could have achieved much more. I'm not trying to get on my soapbox or be provocative and I've said my bit on the subject. That's my tuppence.
  9. 2 points
    I've winged about it previously, but it did give me other facets of life other than academic, which I find an immense advantage, such as work ethics, loyalty, good manners, good general knowledge, generosity, kindness, but also stoicism, self belief, and an ability never to give in.
  10. 2 points
    Like you Chris..pretty much live and let live..but flimsy jimmy jams near me fresh cream cakes..no way! BTW..they were all half price today..should'nt...but i did.
  11. 2 points
    Used to work at Oscrofts in the early sixties, launch of the HA Vivas ( Brabham tuning was a badge and a change of air filters!) The problem was that the cars arrived without undersealing, six months later having started to rust they were sold having had unseal applied at customers request without removing rust! Result instant decay etc. Collected new cars from depots around England, raced back at speeds to make valves bounce and then delivered to customers and told to run them in...result, you guess. Happy days.
  12. 2 points
    Sorry TBI. I really don’t understand why the system was junked - unless it was to bring “ equality”, meaning mediocrity, to every kid. We are NOT equally academically gifted, and thank God. I went to a grammar school and never looked down on my mates who were learning a trade at secondary mod. In fact, I often wish that I’d learnt one. I came from a single-parent family. We were poor, and my mum had to accept charity in the form of vouchers to buy my school uniform. She saved to buy me a good fountain pen, and a Bible for Religious Studies. That 11+ gave me equality, academically, with other, better off kids. I can NEVER understand folks that believe grammars promote inequality.
  13. 2 points
    No change benj. I like Bilston, and I am more at home with people who are ordinary, not showy or snooty. I know there must be a scrap merchant not far away from the town centre because whilst in the Charity Shop, all eyes were on the three women (discreetly of course). As I passed one woman she just looked at me and referring to the women she just whispered Tatters? I don't know why she said it to me, because I don't care what they are, so long as they are peaceful. Their dress sense leaves a lot to be desired, but I must say in their defence, one asked the shopkeeper how much a small glass ornament was. He replied 50p she gave a pound and insisted he put the 50p change in the collection box. Teks all sorts. Dunt It.
  14. 2 points
    This ginger Tom certainly wasn’t placid, although he loved my Nan would be on her knee purring as soon as she sat down. Reading my post back don’t know how I survived it all.
  15. 2 points
    Went out with a ginger haired girl once, she were the same!!.
  16. 2 points
    I can remember my Nan looking after me before I was at school while (whilst?) My mum was at work. She lived on Bonnington Crescent In Sherwood and the back garden was enormous you went up some steps and it was like a small holding with fruit trees and bushes also hens and geese. I was terrified of the gander it always used to run at me and I used to take flight with it at my heels. My Nan used to shout stop running but it was hard not to as it seemed to be about the same size (if not bigger) then me. It used to get me pinned up against a wall and she used to shoo it off. It has left me with a healthy fear of geese. Also feeding the hens, if you held their food bowl with your fingers underneath they would jump up and peck them. Got told off regularly for dropping the bowl! She also had the nastiest, meanest ginger cat, it was a monster. It used to jump on my back from whatever perch it was on, my dad threatened to neck it. I have had cats since then, but must admit never a ginger one. I can also remember my grandad coming home from work and having a massive fry-up, the complete works black pudding, bacon, sausage, eggs etc. My Nan would do an extra fried egg and I would sit on his knee and dip soldiers in my egg, used to get my knuckles wrapped if I tried to dip them in his egg. He used to feed me pieces of black pudding though, I still love the stuff although the ingredients are a bit iffy.
  17. 1 point
    So, I went to the Vicky Centre a couple of weeks ago. Not stopped to see and hear the old Emett clock for ages and it was five to something so I hung around to enjoy the spectacle. The bell chimed the number of hours, the petals dropped and... nothing else! No music, the "orchestra" behind the petals didn't budge and even the main water wheel wasn't turning. In fact apart from the clock itself (which incidentally was five minutes out), it was inanimate. What a disappointment! I've since done some investigation and am considering what restoration needs to be done to get the piece back to original functionality (if possible). I could do with some assistance in regard of what it looked like back then - I'm sure it wasn't all white as it is now. There are some bits on YouTube but nothing clear enough to see detail. Anyone got old photos (or good memories)? Out of interest, while the concept and design was by Frederick Rowland Emett, there were clocksmiths, blacksmiths and tinsmiths involved along the way. In fact the clock parts were by Thwaites and Reed, who maintain Big Ben. Design dates from around 1971, with installation during 1972. The commemorative stone is dated 20 February 1973. There is an Evening Post photo (Picture the Past) taken on this date that shows Emett being interviewed. If anyone wants to know how it really works, I can elaborate.
  18. 1 point
    Early Removals firm.
  19. 1 point
    Thankfully I don't have this problem anymore. Recently had to surrender D/L re eyesight etc. Clean license for the previous 47 years, more luck than anything else buses & wagons a lot slower than cars possibly the reason. Nowadays I firmly believe that traffic enforcement is a giant money spinner, nothing else. Where I live in Bulwell the whole area has been given a 20 mph speed limit, why ? No need for it.
  20. 1 point
    '69 - '71 ish as far as I can remember ! mother lived there until '73.
  21. 1 point
    In the last year our bins have been "missed" twelve times, complained many times & received no explanation why ! Muppets.
  22. 1 point
    I got pulled in WB for speeding, in a .................corpo bus ! I had learned years before about the "attitude" test, be contrite & apologetic & don't try to be clever either. Policemen have heard all the excuses before. A friendly chat soon sorted that out, no ticket !
  23. 1 point
    #5. That sounds just like my daughter's driving ! She takes after her mum
  24. 1 point
  25. 1 point
    Welcome on board. I was at the 'opening' in'73 and was also on 'telly as they showed a bit of a crowd scene. Was it powered by water ? I'm not assuming the clock was !
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