Thank you all for your help................
Beefsteak, thanks for the welcome.
Ayupmeducks,Your memory is better than mine.
Beerman, nice photo tanks.
Lynmee, spot on.
Plantfit, you knew it better than me,& you are right about it all going dont know if its better now or as it was just wish i had taken more notice
when i lived in the gt city of nottm.