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  1. I went to Nottingham about March of this year, to pick up a gearbox from a friend in Keyworth. Decided to have a couple of drinks in town and a look round; suffice it to say I finally parked in Trinity Square where I nearly had a cardiac event after seeing the prices, had a pint in the Sal, served by a miserable-faced spotty tramp in a plastic glass and not particularly well kept, managed to drink about half of it, left the rest and headed out of town. I used to work in the Sal when Baz Bloom kept the place and whilst it was never immaculate it certainly was never dirty either. Only high point was meeting up with the "cockle man" who actually remembered me from over 20 years ago.

    Admittedly I picked a wet and miserable night to visit but what I saw didn't impress me much.

  2. I was only saying on another forum recently, that I'm probably of the last generation of lorry drivers who can truthfully say that they've enjoyed the job. It still has its good points, I wouldn't want to go back to working in a factory or office; but over the last few years it seems to be increasingly micro-managed by technology. I don't mind the automatic transmissions, but when I get people telling me that i can drive the lorry better by piddling about pushing buttons on the steering wheel rather than using the two pedals on the floor which have served us perfectly well for over a century, it gets a bit much. It's a lorry not a bloody Playstation!

    And as for the DQC; I referred to it in one drivers' meeting as a "Diploma in Second-Generation Doctrination Exsugeration"; I'm sure you can work out what that means!

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  3. I had a mate named Ken Bullock his dad had removal business Bullocks removales top of Redland grove carlton, if anyone remembers them.

    I remember Harriss removals I think was in netherfield.

    My godfather, Derek Foster worked for Harris for many years; he ended up driving a road sweeper for Gedling council, said it was the best job you could wish for. He always told me to avoid road haulage as i'd never be owt more than a glorified barrow boy; must admit there have been days like that but I've now been in what's nowadays known as "logistics" for over 30 years and there are far worse ways to earn your living.

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  4. I meant to say "Hoveringham" Andy !

    I once used to drive a Commer tipper wagon many years ago, it had a very distinctive 2 stroke engine, I can still hear the bleddy thing in my sleep !

    It reminded me of a wagon with a sore throat.

    I must have passed your dad on many building sites in the 70s when I was tipping bulk sand out of Bestwood Quarry.

    I was the lucky one in some ways; me dad worked all his life for Hoveringham (fitter on the quarry) and we lived in Thurgarton, opposite the Red Lion. I grew up hearing that fleet of Fodens screaming through the village, getting some steam up to climb the hill to Southwell; I can still pick out a Foden 2-stroke miles away.

    Here's one to make you all nostalgic;


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  5. Half the soddin' county was owned by the ruddy dooks...Newcastle, Portland, and the rest...I wonder how they managed to nick all that land off the poor peasants.

    One of the reasons Newcastle had his castle burned out was because he opposed the poor having any say in the running of the country.And yet they had the nerve to name the working mans pubs after them.

    That wasn't always the case with pubs named after members of the aristocracy. I think I'm right in saying that the Marquis of Granby actually set some of his old soldiers up in the trade when they retired from the army, and many are still named in his memory.

  6. It was indeed a passenger train Scriv, one of the fastest on the Nottingham - Lincoln line. I think it may have ceased to carry passengers by the time Bilbraborn is talking of in #194. It was not always the only loco-hauled, even after DMUs came in in 1958. There was the daily B1 hauled 7.00 Cleethorpes - Birmingham (extended to Sidmouth on Summer Saturdays), and the corresponding 4.50pm Birmingham - Cleethorpes, which left Nottingham at 6.58, stopping only at Rolleston Junction and Newark. And, as I've mentioned on here before, there was a 3.05pm Lincoln - Derby that remained steam-hauled until at least the mid 60s.

    All before my time I'm afraid, I must have seen steam trains on BR and travelled on them many times when I was a baby, but by the time I was old enough to retain memory of the journeys, usually to my grandparents in Loughborough, it was all diesel; I was born in 1960. I do however vaguely recall one day when we missed the train from Loughborough Midland, had to travel from Loughborough Central presumably to Arkwright Street then rush over to Nottingham Midland to catch the train to Thurgarton. I can also recall a steam-hauled goods train heading over Stanford viaduct, I'm sure it was carrying ex-MOD vehicles to Ruddington.

    I do sometimes envy you lads who were born perhaps ten or even twenty years earlier, who were able to see steam working on a daily basis. The Nottingham-Lincoln had plenty of regular traffic but not much exciting stuff. Probably for that reason, it does not seem to have been intensively photographed; a pity really, for the line does have some very fine country stations.

    Incidentally, I do have railwaymen in my family. My maternal grandfather, Claude Sills, was listed on his marriage certificate as being a "shunter on the railway" in 1926; given that they then lived at Curzon street, Netherfield I would assume this to be at Colwick. Not long after that, he was severely injured in an accident at work; he narrowly escaped losing his leg, and suffered from osteomyelitis for the rest of his life, necessitating him wearing a leg iron. He found another job as a clerk at Brush in Loughborough, where he remained until his retirement in the early 1960's. He was a quiet and withdrawn man, with a somewhat dour demeanour probably aggravated by the constant pain he suffered; sadly he died in 1968 before I was really old enough to get to talk to him about his railway memories. My mother's grandfather, George Shaw (died before 1926) was also a railwayman, a "wagon number taker" I believe.

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  7. Mention of the Tamworth Mail; the only regular locomotive-hauled passenger service on the Nottingham-Lincoln line in my younger days. It passed between Bleasby and Thurgarton at 20.40 every weeknight,in the summer months it was the signal for my dad to finish his work in the garden, and go inside to watch the nine o'clock news. I could watch its progress from my bedroom window, at a distance; as Bilbraborn says usually a 31 but I'm sure I saw the occasional 37 or 45, perhaps he could confirm?

    I say passenger train because, from memory, there were a couple of passenger coaches attached. Again, was this actually the case or did the coaches serve another ppurpose?

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  8. Referring to my grandfather, my grandmother used to say "He wants to know the back of Meg's behind, and how to get there"

    I'd think that might refer to somebody wanting to know something in excessive detail, or perhaps just overly inquisitive.

    If somebody was being discussed in a conversation but their name was difficult to recall, Dad used to say, "Aye, I know who you mean; walks about on his feet a lot".

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  9. Thanks Ann. My aunt has already made them aware that I exist, and she herself would appreciate any information that might be forthcoming as she has not had any contact with her sister for about 50 years; I did have contact with a second cousin in the Nottingham area but regrettably due to a computer crash I lost her details.

    I do appreciate your comments about sensitivity, have been through it myself as my own children ended up in care after my first marriage went wrong, though thankfully we are now re-united.

  10. Regarding Bilborough; this is a very long shot.

    I was adopted at eight weeks; I do have the basic facts of my birth mother and searches on Friends Reunited yielded an aunt Sylvia (my mother's sister) in California. My mother was born Valerie Ann Smitham in 1940, and she came from Bilborough. Her parents had divorced, her mother re-married in 1953 and her step-father's surname was Marriott. She attended a secondary school and was top of the "B" form, leaving at the age of 15. She had moved to Leeds prior to my birth, where she worked as a waitress at the Mecca Ballroom, where she met my father who was the dance-band leader.

    Correspondence with my aunt revealed that the family had lost contact with my mother after about 1964; all I know is that she married a Jewish gentleman some years older than herself and had a daughter with him.

    My mother came from quite a large family, related on one side to the Offiler family who owned the eponymous brewery in Derby. I understand that some cousins etc still live in the Bilborough area; Smitham being a fairly uncommon surname, does it ring bells with anyone please?

    Thanks in advance.

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  11. Jack Paling is my Uncle,he retired from the milk round in the early 80s and moved to the south coast.

    Hello Dave. I remember that, didn't they take on a hotel in Brighton or somewhere nearby? If Jack and Margaret (?) are still around, could you please tell them that Helen Scrivener's lad says hello. Sadly my mum died in 1999 and dad in 2002. IIRC your great-uncle was Mr. Pearson (always known as Pedro) who taught at Edward Cludd school in Southwell.

  12. Mother was a smocker (spelling) at Bairnswear bottom of Perry Road. in the same large room were the machinists. When they were going full tilt no one could hear a word said however all the ladies could lip read and could carryon a conversation with no problem.

    My problem was mother would lip read me to, cost me many a belt round the lughole.

    That, as i'm sure you're aware, was the basis of the late Les Dawson's "Cissy and Ada" routine with Roy Barraclough; inspired originally by Norman Evans' "Over the Garden Wall" routine.

    Briiliant observational comedy of a type no longer seen today.

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  13. Ed Balls went to Crossdale Drive Primary School in Keyworth and then Nottingham High School.

    ..... and it was all downhill from there.

    Tarmac was first patented in 1901 by Edgar Hooley, Welsh-born but at the time County Surveyor for the council. Does anyone know if the eponymous garage formerly on Derby Road belonged to the same family?