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  1. PDF? They can be converted to Word documents all too easily and then any Tom Dick or Harry could cut, paste and use the fruits of seven months hard labour without doing even 1 minute of research. I have already had some scrote take copyrighted information from my first book Saville's Spinney totally without any permission. Said scrote just copied info from other peoples web pages then claimed the finished product as all his own work....... which obviously it wasnt. So no PDFs sorry for the reasons given here. Pensioners can afford a £2.01 e-book. I should know, I am one!
  2. Ha Ha! Sadly Amazon control sale prices and £2.01 is the minimum you can sell it for. Why the odd penny? Amazon is a USA company so you have to price books first in US dollars and the lowest allowed price is $2.99. From the £2.01 sale Amazon take 30% and the UK government take 20% VAT so I am left with a quid and a penny. The buyer is supposed to pay the VAT but I have absorbed the price. You cannot buy a pint of beer, a pack of cigs nor even a decent coffee for £2.01. I wont be getting rich any time soon but it wont stop me writing.......
  3. Quite right, it would make amazing TV - but you dont know the half of it. I have spent the last 7 months researching and writing this almost unbelievable story and have just published my 74,000 word book on Amazon. I have not used any modern accounts and went back to the original 1851 accounts in newspapers. I can tell you why Sarah Barber did not hang. Petitions in both Nottingham and Eastwood raised 11,000 signatures in 2 days to have her death sentence commuted to transportation. It was a close run thing - she still came within 28 hours of hanging and the scaffold and barricades were already part-assembled when a messenger arrived by train from the Home Office. I doubt if anyone knows the coroner investigated two reports of poisoning in Eastwood, nor that the Eastwood surgeon who carried out the post mortem failed to discover arsenic and declared Joseph Barber died a natural death. It was only because of Joseph Barber's brother contracting another surgeon that arsenic was discovered. Sarah Barber's is an almost unbelievably tragic story from start to end and she had but a few short years of happiness in Tasmania.She inherited a fortune from her grandmother equivalent to over £300,000 in today's money. She married too young at 17 and to the wrong man. If you made up a story like this it would be declared fanciful. If anyone is interested you can read the synopsis for this book and look inside and read the first few chapters for free. Just click on the hyperlink or image below and dont worry there is no compulsion to pay the £2.01 cost of the e-book. I dont have print copies but you dont need to have a Kindle to download and read e-books. You can download a free app for iphones or smart phones or ipad or any pc or laptop from Amazon.
  4. Hi everybody, I started this thread in April 2011 when I realized that one of Nottingham's worst murders were commited almost at the bottom of my old street in Bakersfield. I have been researching the amazing background to this well known story that has become part of Nottingham folklore.The end result is a book I have written and recently uploaded to Amazon. Please click on the link below, you can see the cover and also look inside and read the intro, prologue and the first two and a half chapters free. I would like to thank those who have responded by posting here, Rest assured those pictures of Saville's Crossing came in handy. Would also like to thank Kath James for sending info about the Saville family. Now then....... do you all recall the famous boy up the tree who witnessed the murders. Variously described as either playing truant from school or bird-egging or both? Well I can reveal here this is a total myth! There were no witnesses to the murders! The numbers killed following the execution have also been wrongly and inaccurately recorded. Painstaking research over many months and mostly in Nottingham Central Library has proved that the old stories are casualties of the truth. I discovered what really happened in 1844 and its all in my book. I have been uploading draft copies of my book chapters to my blog and know people have been following links from this thread. I am about to remove them all as they do contain mistakes and inaccuracies. The book was totally reorganised with new chapters and some new information. I will leave them up for just one more week just in case anyone wishes to read them. The finished book is now ready for downloading at a cost of just £1.80 Thanks again, Mike Sheridan aka Notts Lad oop North
  5. Looking for a map of Sneinton in the 1800s and thought there used to be some on here? Am I dreaming or have the maps been removed?I know all about about copyright but the law is clear - 70 years after the death of the copyright owner which surely makes old maps out of copyright?
  6. Have to say Toton is the best compromise and between Nottingham and Derby with plenty of space with all those disused sidings. Its not for the common man is it and in any case many will never see it completed with that ridiculous timescale - dont think I will.......
  7. I believe Hymeks regularly worked as far as Leicester Central to take over the two BOMO holiday trains, as Firbeck states they were seen on the Peak line. Recently sold a Hymek slide at Derby, on a passenger heading north. Dont know if that was a service or test train. Rmour has it the odd Western go to Derby too and quickly returned to Brum but as Firbeck says no Warships as far as I know....
  8. "The LMS used Victoria Station from about 1944 & B.R.(Midland Reigeon) until the L&NWR/GNR joint closed to passenger traffic in 1951? " Er sorry No! Nottingham Victoria was a joint GNR and GCR station. These two companies were amalgamated into the LNER from 1 jan 1923 when the BIG FOUR were created. These were SR WR LMS LNER Nottingham Midland became an LMS station after 1923 having been a Midland Railway station. The LMS did not use Victoria, they used Midland. The LNWR became part of the LMS - they had rights to use part of the GNR line from Bottesford into Nottingham and had a lage goods yard and shed in Sneinton and trains from Northampton continued to run into Nottingham London Road Low Level up until the 1940s. They also had a steam shed at Colwick which shut when they were absorbed into the LMS.. In 1948 the Big Four became BR or British Railways BR had four regions BR (S) BR (W) BR (M) Nottingham Midland in this.. BR (E) Nottingham Victoria in this Railfans have their own versions of what the railway initials stood for eg Great Central Railway - Gone Completely Railway LMS - Hell of a Mess Manchester Sheffield and Lincoln Railway - Muddled Sunk and Lost Railway - this along with its "Southern Extension to London through Nottingham was a precursor to the GCR!! It took me a long time to work all this out!!
  9. Been doing a lot of research into Framework Knitting to help me write a historical novel based in Nottingham. Framework Knitting once supported nearly half the population of Nottingham and Lace Making most the other half. These two trades were related, I used to watch my late grandmother making lace with those old bobbins but in truth the lace was mostly made from machines developed from FrameWork Knitting machines. If you havent seen one get down to Ruddington FWK museum, they have loads but sadly were not demonstrating any when I was there so I am still not 100% clear except they were like looms and had to be hand ( and foot) operated plus the operator sat on a beam inside the frame. Nottingham Derby and Leicester were the main UK manufacturing centres, London another. Leicester was noted for woollen hose, Nottingham was cotton and Derby was silk. The machines turned out mostly hose ie socks and stockings but could make other items like gloves and pantaloons. Later they could be used to make most cotton clothes as sections of cotton material were cut up and sewn together to make goods. The Framework Knitters were the original Luddites smashing frames around Nottingham and especially in Arnold. They were also involved in the sacking of Colwick Hall, burning down Nottingham Castle and a mill at Beeston. They were involved in Chartist riots. I imagine that many many Nottingham folk will be descended from Framework Knitters yet so few people know anything about them. Yes they did first work at home on a single frame, mostly in a upstairs room and the top window would be enlarged to let in more light. They then started putting one or more frames in a single storey outside workshop, or upstairs in a workshop, often in the garden of a house owned by a merchant. Eventually lage numbers of frames were set up in large warehouses. However the trade came to and end with the invention of steam power and increasing mechanisation which could produce more material more quickly and much more cheaply than a single man sitting inside a frame working up to 14 hours a day.. And whoever said history was boring ??
  10. Both sides of my family were from Sneinton and raised there in the 1930s - 1940s. They had a Christmas Pork Pie tradition but it wasnt for breakfast. Traditionally a large Pork Farm Pork Pie ( and not any other type of Pork Pie mind) was the centre-piece of a large cold buffet meal for the entire extended family and as there wasnt room for all at the table, some could eat off their laps. By tradition this took place on Boxing Day and as you might imagine the slices of pie were thin but enjoyed by all none the less and always accompanied by pickles, mixed pickles and pickled onions. A few years back I decided to try to renew this family tradition, buying a large "Pork Farms" Pork Pie from Marks and Sparks. Pork Farms my XXXXX !!! Tasted nothing like it and now I know why - they now come from Witshire and the Pork is not prepared in the same way. One huge disappointment and a mistake I wont repeat. You see sometimes the good old days really were....... The GOOD old days!!
  11. Thanks for the replies and esp thanks to Commo - confirmed what I thought,that it was a skipping rhyme. Now a quick update. My sister has discovered there really was a Sally Slick Slack who sold rags ( ie clothes) on Sneinton Market. She found the info in an article about Sneinton Market which I will link to below. Given the proximity to St Anns it wouldnt seem unreasonable to assume Sally came from there. Both my parents were raised in Sneinton and could well have seen Sally in action selling her "rags". I strongly suspect Sally No Nose is the same is the link, scroll way down this page to read the article about Sneinton Market...
  12. A few more words on Warships which were withdrawn very quickly at the start of the 1970s. They did work regularly into Crewe in the early 60s coming in over the Marches route ( yes that is via Shrewsbury) have some pics somewhere if I can find them. Diesels inc Warships dropped the D prefix anytime after Aug 1968 but not before - that date was of course the end of BR steam There are three types of Warships Class 41 Class 42 Built by BR Class 43 Bult by North British Kelly was a Swindon built BR Class 42 D827 Kelly , into service 4 October 1960 Withdrawn 1 January 1972 Cut up 13.10.72 at Swindon
  13. Hi all, couple of pointers. The Magpie pub was very near to the top of Meadow Lane, almost next to the level crossing and on the right walking up to the top and before the 3 bridges. I just cannot forget that pub it had an amazing inn "sign", a 3-D rendition of two magpies in a cage looked like it was made of pottery. The Ginger Tom was a modern pub built near the flats up near the Colwick Woods and actually either on the site or just to one side of the railway bridge going over Colwick Road. bridge was demolished mid 60s. I too played in Monkey Park, the big attraction was the huge ( and very dangerous) climbing frame. No softee rubber mats to land on, if you fell off the top of that that would be a trip or two to the fracture clinic .... or worse. Mylate father told me he could recall that park being opened, prob late 1930s.
  14. Does anyone recall rhymes or indeed the real names or stories behind these two. My sister thinks Sally Slick Slack lived in St Anns and here is a rhyme our mother told us as children.. 'Sally Slick Sack sells fish, 3 aypence a dish, dont buy it, dont buy it, it stinks when you fry it' !! Anyone know any more esp about Sally No Nose ( we think thaty was another rhyme) Love to hear some more about this.....even if they are fictional characters!
  15. Seems to be a lot of confusion here, prob because there was indeed a pleasure park at the end of Trent Lane but there was also Colwick / Colwick Park which was just down from this pleasure park and boats did pull in there as late as the 1960s. I visited the Trent Lane park as a child in the late 50s, there were a few rides,one like a chair-o-p-lane, some arcade machines and there were some railings near the Trent shore to allow safe bathing. Must mention this pleasure park was nowhere near Trent Marina which is a 1970s-19800s creation and was cut out of old meadows beyond Colwick Hall between the old Trent course and the new one leading to the sluice gates. My uncle who was raised in Sneinton recalls "Peg-Leg" as the one legged ferry boat man of Trent Lane, who did a roaring trade when Forest played at home.,dont think he was the same famous high diver! Quote from my uncle.. " The fastest way over the Trent from Cosby Rd was to go down Trent Lane and have a chap called Peg-Leg row people across! I believe he lost his leg in the war. In his early days he rowed people across for a penny each way, but he must have become quite affluent at those high charges, for I believe he upgraded to an engine