There's a house on Hardys Drive, Gedling called Wheatcrofts its surposed to be where Harry's mum lived. Wheatcrofts started in Gedling as Wheatcroft brothers then the brothers had an argument and split, Timmermans were related by marriage to the Wheatcrofts and you can always get the Harry Wheatcroft rose from them, I always have a 'Harry' in the garden, you can also get a Dorothy Wheatcroft rose.