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  1. Tonight I found an Evening Post report on the shop with a colour picture. In the picture are Joan and Harold Wealthall with Doreen Crossland (shop assistant), Edna Holt (family friend) a customer whose face I remember but not her name and Andrew Wealthall in the background stacking shelves. The date of this is 1969 and the article also includes a few words on Harold Snr. This is like a half page piece and a little difficult to scan whole, but when I do I will put it on the site. Talking of meat or no meat, I spent a month in Mongolia in July for the Naadem festival. The Mongolian's are big mea
  2. Hi everybody I am pleased to be able to discuss the Wealthalls with you all. If Diane was still here she would say I am crazy. But then I was a salesman selling coal mining machinery in overseas markets, When you do biz in China you have to be crazy. So, letshavagoo, yes it was marina and I am so sorry you lost her. She was always full of life and we often had a joke or two. I thought she had a big family but didn't like to say. I was in Kimberley yesterday watching my two grandsons at football training. I need an MOT, not my car, me, so I will try to find time to pop in to see David. You are
  3. Hi Letshavagoo, you mean little David as we affectionally thought of him. You have stretched my memory, wasn't his mother a customer of the shop and lived on Wordsworth or close by, large family? My name is Derek, ask him if he remembers me or maybe your wife. Diane fashionable, really, I never noticed. Ha! Ha! I would never know which Diane I would meet. The girl with long black hair or the one with short blonde hair or with short black hair. What day of the week is it? In her school days it was long, by 18/19 her final horse riding years it was short, a year before we were married it was sho
  4. I last saw Pat in 1969 at my wedding, then with time lost contact due to deaths in both families. She was my wife's childhood friend. The earliest picture I have with my wife and Pat was at my wife's 1st birthday party in 1946. Two weeks ago my wife's cousin gave me some fifteen pics of the family holiday of the Holt and Wealthall families in Skegness dated 1953..I sent a letter to the Nottingham Post to find Pat and got a call from her the day the letter was in the Post last week. She now lives in Heanor and I will meet up with her and her husband soon.
  5. I don't know about that but surely Clarice is a lady's name. Do you mean Clarence? I will ask Pat.
  6. Jill, your reply yesterday has only just come up on my computer. So, what I just wrote was before I received your reply. The Monkey tree was in the front garden of the Holt family. Bernard Holt was a friend of Harold's and they both frequented the Grand and Pheasant. The families holidayed together, notably in Skeggy and I have lots of pictures from 1953. I hadn't seen his daughter Pat since my wedding in 1969 and through the post last week I tracked her down and we will be meeting shortly. She was my wife's childhood friend.
  7. Jill, don't answer about your schooling, I now know. My wife started at Berridge then transferred to St. Terassa's RC, Aspley, but this would have been in the 50's. Went passed the Wheatsheaf on Wednesday, big McDonalds sign on the side, reconstruction well underway. Mick the landlord will be turning in his grave. Had both my engagement and twenty first birthday parties there in the upstairs room. At the end of the night Mick came in with brown paper bags, looked at the buffet that was left and said help yourself. My mates filled the bags from the pumps!! There was a Mr. Alan Parr at Rise Park
  8. I don&'t think there was a Brown family member on Bobbies Mill road. However, the family tree is large and I would not rule it out. My grandfather's sister, Thurza Brown lived on Gauntly Street off Wilkinson Street, possibly in their former family home. His Brother, Harold was a florist and lived in a Shipstone house on Radford Road opposite the top of Wilkinson Street. The land opposite the brewery where the tram sheds now are, was owned by my Great Grandfather, so I was told. His other sister lived on Weston Blvd. I guess you went to Berridge Road school Jill, then Forest Fields or Pever
  9. We had adjoining rooms in Majorca and in the morning before breakfast I would find her on her balcony looking peacefully out to sea. To me it seemed as if she was thinking about her life. What had happened and what could have happened. She thoroughly enjoyed her break. We also took her on a short break to Paris which she thoroughly enjoyed. Joan unfortunately was diagnosed with the Big C and went into Haywood House at the City. She didn't want to spend the end of her life there and against doctors advice demanded to go home. They said that it was likely that the short ambulance journey would
  10. A little humour. I can't remember the exact date, possibly in the late 70's. Harold was friendly with Deaton brothers. Both newsagents, one had a shop a the bottom of Broxtowe lane next to the chip shop the other, Alan had a shop on Aspley lane near the junction of Melbourne road. He is famous for deterring thieves from robbing cigarettes from his cigarette machine at the front of the shop by a fence. He heard the would be robbers, took to his shotgun and blasted them from the bedroom above, he had to go to court but was let off. Anyway, Harold and Joan were invited to go with them to Cyprus.
  11. Jill Sparrow is quite right in her description of the shop. To the right of the counter was a doorway, on passing through the doorway immediately to the right were the cellar steps, going on you came to the stock room, passing through this you came to the living quarters, a small room which was the lounge, dining room, office etc all comdined. The kitchen was through the lounge. I say kitchen but that is overstating it. How Joan managed to cook the fantastic meals she did I will never know. Not only did she do the family cooking there she also prepared the cooked beetroot there which the shop
  12. Here goes, The Wealthall family biz is not just limited to Harold and his direct family. His second cousins are Kenny and Chris Wealthall, market traders, purveyors of fish and associated items. I am not sure where they stand as I haven't seen them for years, I only remember Kenny from standing at Ilkeston and visits to Harold's shop. I spoke to their sister recently and their biz is now in the 100th year. Harold played football for Nottingham Boys in the late 20's/30's.He was a tricky winger, reported in the Evening Post. He played the required six games for a Cap as representing the City bu
  13. My first visit to the site was yesterday and I noticed How Jill Sparrow took a keen interest and I was very pleased to see her response about Harold Wealthall Jnr and his father. I first met his daughter, Diane, at St Margaret's Church, Aspley, youth club when 13. We finally got together at 19 and married in 1969 at 24. I too was involved in the biz on high days and holidays and knew many of the customers from the area and far. Andrew, Harold's son, also worked in the shop full time before having his own shop on Broxtowe Lane. Pre marriage I lived for a short time with Harold snr and his wife
  14. I am new to the site, but, I have chosen the name Brown Bowler because I am in possession of both of Harold Wealthall's bowlers. Harold passed away in 1993, his wife in 2002, his daughter, Diane in January this year. They are survived by son Andrew who lives in Barnsley and myself as son-in-law. what has been missed are the two dogs who sat outside the shop, an Old English sheepdog called Blue and a cross, Ozzie. Before Harold Victor, the shop was owned by his father Harold senior. The shop on the corner of the street higher up Radford Boulevard was a launderette in the 60's.