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Bit late returning, not only name changes but also number changes as in Victoria Road. Originally even numbered on the left travelling from the railway crossing. The map I referred to previously was actually in an early twentieth century book I used to own, but can no longer find. Have a feeling someone borrowed it. Thinking about it, it is possible that the author could have altered a map to indicate his perception of early Netherfield and how it could have looked. Squares and roads were marked up which didn't come to fruition. Was he looking at official documents or summising?

Seems this forum has been here before:- https://nottstalgia.com/forums/topic/12429-netherfield-1911/ TBI:- nice little nugget you've found. If these end houses were numbered 12 & 14 Dunstan Street, then it looks likely they were contemporary with other construction around them and not before as I was beginning to think. Unless they were renumbered later to fit in with surrounding buildings. Explains why there is no 1 & 2 on the census form. Am sure their front doors were in line with the others and not on Dunstan Street. Cliff Ton:- can't

STANLEY1706 posted on 20th February 2011:- as a child I lived in Devonshire Cottages, these were on the right as you went down Dunstan Street, the last time I looked it was a car park. Thinking about the house numbering on the census form, if they were numbered consecutively, it's possible I have actually been in the house your ancestors lived in. It was either the third or forth on the left as you look from Dunstan Street. Will really need to look at the rest of the census form to work it out. Actually, it doesn't help solve this riddle. Going off at a tangent springs t

IAN123:- Thanks for message about Fly, at least he's O.K. Unable to pm you.

Someone has used the double m spelling of Wainman when they uploaded this family onto the Internet. If you look at Cliff Tons map:- the block from right of the arrow to Dennis Street contains the Co op buildings. The large area from the middle to Dennis Street were the original complex. On the old map, if you look at the boundary line for Dennis Street and Dunstan Street, mentally draw that line to Victoria Road, between that line and the left boundary for the Co op was the position of the building, including the long building at the rear and the smaller one

Any one know what's happened to Fly? Not posted since November. Hope he's alright.

Just seen the census page. I read that as Emily Dring residing at 3 Wainmans Terrace, not Dunstan Street. The enumerator has written do do( ditto) instead of writing the address each time. He's also spelt it Waimmans. Still haven't come across it which ever is the correct spelling.

Had a few problems posting this morning. The gaps between the lines weren't by design. Some of what I tried to post didn't show. including the line:- if I'm wrong, a triple malt will be heading in your direction. To re iterate, Wainman Terrace/Devonshire Cottages are the same buildings. Take Dennis Street out of the equation. Like TBI, I have seen an old map, date unknown, this showed one building located in the middle of the present ex Co op buildings, it had buildings extended to Wainmans Terrace (although it wasn't marked up as such.) in fact the streets were laid out, wi

Cliff Ton:- Wainmans Terrace/Devonshire Cottages are the same buildings. They pre-date Dunstan Street slightly. TSB has given me an itch I can't scratch. Who was Wainman and why were they built in that position . Netherfield was built piecemeal by various builders as bits of land were sold. (Won't go into an essay on this subject) . Will try and come back later, seem to be having a few issues at the moment.

From what I can ascertain they lived at 3 Wainmans Terrace. They could have moved when she remarried in 1902. It was Wainmans Terrace in 1902 as a property was advertised at 3 shillings 9 pence rental. (More expensive than Carlton) . John Woolston Dring, an older sibling was a coalman. The area you thought may have been the location isn't big enough, it's the back area to the shops that were there before Graham Read took over the entire row. When Cliff Ton mentioned Devonshire Cottages, that lit a light bulb.

Quietly confident I,m right, after some more thought. Looking at Google (oh dear) life moves on! Where's Loppy when you need him?

If you look at Ciff Ton's map, you will see 14 dwellings on the opposite side of the road at 90 degrees to Dunstan Street. Think this is what you are looking for. Seem to remember there was no road only a path leading to their fronts. Have this vague recollection of them. However, I am going from memory, which can sometimes lead to a bum steer. It wasn't unusual for a census to record a side road before recording the main one.

Is this who you are looking for? Dring family:- Emily Dring 47 widow born Sutton Cambridgeshire. Husband Clark Dring died 1897 aged 53. Harry 19 married to Polly 19 ( born Alford Lincolnshire ) . Kate 17, Charles 14, Frederick 11, Horace 7, Walter 4. All living Wainmans Terrace 1901 census. 1911 census has them at 19 Main Road, Carlton. She's now Emily Clayton widow. Liv

He's about to turn left into the bus station. (Whilst avoiding the twerp with the camera.)

Yes, the P2's had a few issues, problems with the leading bogie led to serious faults occurring with their driving wheels, bearings running hot and even some cracks in the axles. I am not aware of any derailments occurring with this class although that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Only six loco's were built to work expresses between Edinburgh and Inverness, whilst powerful they lacked top speed. The V2 had the same leading bogie, these however were modified after a couple of derailments. Whether it was because they were seen as a non standard locomotive, they weren't modified. Edward Thompso

Solario was the first to be withdrawn due to a cracked mainframe. Late 1959. The cull didn't start until 1961. However, Prince Palatine was the last to be withdrawn, January 1966. Ending her days in Scotland with a few others. Quite a few A 3's were fitted with A4 boilers, wonder if someone forgot to reduce the boiler pressure? Pure speculation on my part. It seems the loss of A 4's from Grantham coincided with A3's transferred from the G.C. arriving. Post war, the railway companies were in a mess, thanks to the war effort and no investm

Should have thought of that possibility, I believe that's how Woodcock returned home. Am sure most of the G.C.'s A3 's were transferred to Grantham. The last six certainly were, ironically these were apparently all good performers. Am too young to remember any of them working on the G.C. Have seen about 4/5 A3's on Colwick. I think the last time was one standing behind Locomotive Terrace, in steam, unfortunately I was on the footbridge which allowed people to cross the lines leading into the L.N.W. Shed. The loco had its tender facing me and was too far away anyway. Somewhat annoying at the ti

Aspley park:. No need to apologise. I wasn't having a go at you, rather encouraging you to jog my memory with your records. Being more to do with any future conversations. If your records contradict my memory, I'm happy for you to put me right. Your comments about Dominion of Canada are interesting, as when Flying Scotsman was allocated to Leicester she also had a reputation of being a poor performer for that very same reason. From what I can gather, the A3's were well liked by G.C. Train crews. August 1957 saw the last ones returned to the East Coast, as the assa

Sadly Oztalgian, they are becoming fading memories. Even sadder is the fact so few LNER (and its amalgamated companies) locomotives made it into preservation. Thank goodness for Alan Pegler, or this iconic class would have disappeared into the annals of history. Nice photograph. Aspley park: Unfortunately all my old records and notes were sadly destroyed many years ago. Nowadays I have to rely solely on memory, please make allowances if my memory doesn't tally with your records.

Not such a tardy reply this time Aspley park. I was quite young at the time and apart from seeing the A4, I can only recollect the smell and steam circulating about. Steam sheds had that specific aroma. I did however see another A4 at Colwick: returning home from a holiday, I remember seeing another A4 near Rectory Junction signal box, it was night time and I couldn't see its number or name. It was on its own and in steam. As it had a bell on the front, I would think it was Dominion of Canada, which at the time was a Grantham based locomotive, if my memory is holding out. Have often wondered w

Apologies for a tardy reply, have only just found your post Aspley park. You may not see this reply as you only posted once. In the event that you may return I give you the following: knee high to a grasshopper I was taken into Colwick loco shed, possibly 1957,however not completely sure of year. I remember seeing a engine unlike any others I'd seen. A big green shiny one with a name. Have always thought it was Woodcock I saw on this occasion, whether I read the name or was told, I can't remember. Am sure the engine I saw had its connecting rods removed. Oft

Wonder how many others are having problems accessing and moving around Nottstalgia?

loppylugs: I feel your pain, pleased it's not just me, hope someone can help you.

Aide Memoire to self: always read what I have typed before pressing send. Carnie: apologies for giving you a bum steer, the light you saw was Venus, at the moment at the height of it's eight year cycle. I have no idea why I typed Uranus. A definite short circuit somewhere in my wiring. I did read an article a few days ago about Uranus, but who knows? I don't.

Seems to be tickety boo at the moment, my gremlins are having a night off.