Dark Angel

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  1. The excavations of the South end and middle weren’t to the same depth as the North end as they were excavating into a hill. The footbridge from the main concourse to the platforms would have been around 20/22 feet from rail level. This would have exited at the road level of the re-routed Glasshouse Street. St Anne’s Street has already been pointed out, but far right, the large building with what looks like twin towers is a maltings building on what used to be Milk Street.
  2. In reply to Beekay. The word week probably stems from weke which was a dweller/worker on a dairy farm. The word day probably stems from the word daege/daye which was feminine and referred to a dairy maid/servant. As regards the cross, the last one was removed and the stone sold around 1804/5. This had supposedly been erected in the early 18th century and was either a new cross or a rebuild of an existing one. The previous one had been built or rebuild of an existing one in the early 16th century. This also appears to have replaced an earlier cross. The area has been inhab
  3. Tivey's bakery, that tickled the old memory cells.
  4. Considering Nottingham had been hit with cholera, I am amazed people were allowed to build new houses without decent sanitation. In some cases, three or four houses would share the same waste soil depositories. ( waste soil was how they spoke of it in those times.) Within five years of being built two houses on Curzon Street were found to be a health risk. In those days they must have had serious issues to be highlighted in this way. Yet still they continued building houses in the same manner. Sorry, going off topic.
  5. Sadly, a lot of the housing in Netherfield left a lot to be desired. The housing was built ad hoc by various builders, not really giving any thought to the people having to live in them. Being in the Trent Valley and having two engine sheds and a large marshalling yard, the atmosphere wouldn't have been conducive to good health, particularly in later life. Your mum saw the writing on the wall, an indoor bathroom, must have been akin to winning the pools. Returning to Loppy's comment about shunters, they would have worked in thick fog amongst other weathers
  6. Apologies. The photo you put up was picture the past. Yes, the photo I was referring to is amongst those you have posted. Thank you. Also, a thank you to Loppy for your comments.
  7. Cliff Ton:- Am doing my best here, however, am falling short at the moment. I did take screen shots of the toll gate and also the old cottage, but they came from different sources. Will persevere.
  8. Have now located the photograph I was referring to. It's in Picture the Past, clearly shows the house the original questioner asked about. Apart from Loppy, it seems every one else has disappeared from Netherfield threads. There is also a photograph of the railway house which he queried, albeit boarded up.
  9. Thanks Cliff Ton, a fair bit on this map to get my teeth into! Having sorted out the farms in my head, I now have an issue over the location of the first house built in Netherfield!
  10. Have been doing some ferreting around, have now found two pictures of what I believe to be William Brierley's cottage. It is certainly not contemporary with any other buildings in Netherfield. This cottage was unique. A massive shame it got demolished to make way for the bank buildings. Cliff Ton has produced a map on another thread which sadly doesn't show this building, but shows another on what is now Garnett Street. I seem to end up with more questions when ever I think I've answered one. Could these buildings, (which I think still exist) have been used for residential or agricultural use?
  11. To be paralysed with fear is never a good place to be. No wonder you emigrated to Arnold.
  12. This may have nothing to do with the price of fish, however, in 1910 a Mrs Harriet Bull ran a dining and refreshment rooms on Haywood Road. She was also a tobacconist. Meanwhile, a Christopher Gilbert was a confectioner at Holly Mount, Woodborough Road.
  13. So long as you managed to dodge the torpedoes and didn't hook a mine. A shunter was an under rated job, shifts, out in all weathers, on the plus side, they didn't need gyms! Pay not very good either, although there were enhancements like free travel, pensions, tended to be looked after if you got sick. ie if someone had to take a lower paid job through health reasons they retained their rate of pay. Just realised have gone off topic!
  14. Cliff Ton:- what date is your map at the start of this thread? It's showing two farms and another building closer to where the Midland Railway would be built. If that is Brierley's cottage, then your map is locating it on what would later be Garnett Street, not where I've always thought it to be: junction of Meadow/Victoria Roads. The 1841 census lists Brierley's cottage in Netherfield but not the farms. Looking at their locations it's feasible one would be on Colwicks census return and the other on Stoke Bardolphs return. It does look from your
  15. Whenever I approached the foot bridge, my mind would switch into adventure mode. The footpaths, bridges, nooks and crannies all fascinated me. Never ventured onto the railway itself. Didn't need to, plenty of other distractions. Wildlife plentiful where ever your gaze fell. To me, crossing that bridge was my own personal wonderland. I remember the narrow gauge railway, the little diesel zipping back and forth with its little hoppers. The tunnel it went through was originally built to accommodate water drainage from the Hesgang Pastures. The next tunnel up was built for the same rea
  16. About 10 minutes ago I picked up a book and the page I opened up had a reference to William Brierley and his family being on the 1841 census. No mention of any farms, but they could have appeared on a different census. ie Colwick maybe. Alternatively they could have appeared after the census of that year.
  17. Sadly no, the photograph I am referring to is in the opposite direction, to the rear of the photographer. Ironically, William Brierley's cottage is just to the right of this photograph.
  18. Think I've missed the boat with this one, however, the row of terraced houses with a shop on the corner with Morris Street, along with the row of houses on Morris Street were demolished to make way for the co op supermarket and car park. The shop initially being run by Miss Maggie Wheldon as a grocers. Think I only remember it as a sweet shop, although it could also have been a grocers. Someone on here, somewhere in the system has put a photograph showing the toll gate on Meadow Road with this row of houses in the background. Strangely, I remember them being there but not their demol
  19. In the early 1900's a Blanche Parrott attended Ashwell Street school.
  20. Am in agreement with you. Another missed opportunity of preserving our heritage. Money and the A610 meant otherwise.
  21. My apologies for the ambiguity in my previous post. Could have been worded better, sometimes my brain and typing finger whilst lickety splitting the same slope, don't necessarily do it at the same time. I worry that I tend to bang on a bit, leading to my post sometimes not appearing on paper the same as my thought process. You are correct, Netherfield as a town didn't exist until after the railways came. The ambiguity arised as I put old maps and street names in the same sentance: up until WW1, a lot of adverts for housing rental gave the street names in Colwick and no
  22. The toll gate at Netherfield was a contentious issue for many years. Stemming from the enclosure act the road now designated Meadow Road should have been a public carriage way to the boundary with Colwick Estates owned at the time by the Musters family. However, the residents of Colwick Hall decided to charge people for right of way over their land. They erected the gate in the position photographed, unfortunately it was erected in the wrong place. It should have been erected just past where Meadow Road turns into Charworth Road. Originally, the area was known as Gedling/Colwick/Stoke Bar
  23. AfferGorritt:- will you be posting your memoirs? (Sorry, research.) I refrained from mentioning the Edgar Alan Poe version. His wife and mother-in-law spent time and money trying to locate what happened to him. Apart from two versions of basically the same story:- he escaped the battle on horseback across the River Trent. One tale has him reaching the opposite bank and riding away. The other has his horse stumbling to climb out of the water with Lovell falling into the water. There is an account of him routing some Lancastrians on t
  24. Phew! That was close! Internet went down just after I had posted! There is certainly no mention of him after the battle. I have an open mind on Lovell. Escaping the battle and dying of his wounds is indeed credible. I recollect reading somewhere of him drowning, if he was wounded and weak it's feasible, considering the clothing he would have been wearing. However, there is also a document that states he was given safe passage through Scotland before going abroad. This could be misinformation as this may be the group that had been giv
  25. AfferGorritt:- I acquiesce to your request. You will probably need to sit down with a triple malt. 16th June 1487, was the anniversary of a battle fought in Nottinghamshire which allegedly has the highest mortality of any battle fought on home soil. 6000/7000 men are alleged to have been killed in a battle lasting just under 3 hours. Giving a statistic of between 33 & 39 men dying every minute! It entered the history books as The Battle of East Stoke. However, I believe i