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Mrs Thatcher, the best PM this country has ever had, for a woman that is no mean feat either.

Oxford University educated, at a time when women had a tough job getting in to a university, Later she studied & gained another degree this time in law. She even had to fight to get into politics because she was a woman also remember she didn't come from a rich family either. All her achievments were due to shear hard work, nothing less.

A lot is said about the Miners, well the unions were bringing this country to it's knees, she was the only one capable of some serious Arse Kicking, which she did.

Council Tenants given the "right to buy" and for the first time ordinary Joe Public got the opportunity to buy shares. Lots of people only remember negative things about her.

A truly remarkable lady, RIP Lady Thatcher.

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So according to you I have no right to comment on the british politicians,

I do not agree with you, but it is your opinion, so I respect it ...................

I never post to offend, all comments made are IMHO, I also respect your opinion

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I never post to offend, all comments made are IMHO, I also respect your opinion

No offence taken,

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I will always remember her for her willingness to stand up against the Argies and defending those small islands in the South Atlantic, boy, she had guts.......I was right behind her on that one, being a patriot.

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The year Maggie was voted in is the year i left i had had enough trying to run a business when the power was out & petrol rationing was no joke. All my miner mates were laughing at me for working 18hr days 7 days a week & they still got their money & had time to do jobs on the side. The country was in the toilet .

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Again I read of we ex-pats as 'deserting'the country,and have no rights to comment on whatever goes on in the UK.

I am a British citizen,and will always remain so, with pride. My sons and my grandchildren live in the UK.

If you have to post something, and then find it necessary to say "I mean no offence", maybe you should re-read the post before letting it go into the public forum.

I take no offence to what is said, but this 'deserter' thing is getting a bit old. Nottstalgia is a place to air your opinions, ideas,and memories,and that is open to all the members,worldwide.

It would be a sad day if the ex-pats were not to be heard.

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Quote from a former colleague : "She makes Attila the Hun look like a socialist!"

What did she do right? 1. Gave the Argentinians a good hiding; 2. (For all that she was criticised for it) She insisted that you cannot spend money that you do not have - running the country like a grocer's shop. Well that's how we all have to run our households isn't it? 3. She sorted the unions out when they had got too big for their boots - particularly King Arthur. 4. She told the EU to get knotted.

What did she do wrong? She used the nuclear option on the unions. Q. "Where do they thrive?" A. "In industry." Well then, let's do away with industry - problem solved. Only two snags - 1. Industry provides the wealth out of which the majority of tax revenue ought to come. 2. If it still existed it would also provide the jobs in which all of these supposedly shiftless young people, single mothers, people over 65 and others are supposed to work. But of course it doesn't still exist so...?

In the meantime, the service "industry" (which includes expensive but mediocre nurseries to re-absorb the income of the single mums who are supposed to be doing the work in industries that no longer exist) provides low-paid soul-destroying work, often at unsociable hours. The financial services so-called "industry" which Mrs Thatcher (alias "That Woman") and her successors favour so much, use smoked mirrors to do conjuring tricks with money. But it is not true wealth creation, and it benefits no-one but the members of its own exclusive club.

The only other employment opportunities are funded from tax revenues anyway - government (national and local), civil service, quangos etc. - so actually the less of them, the better it would be for all of us.

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At rest.........condolences to her family

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Imagine our country today, if we'd remained in the grip of militant unions.........................

I can , we'd still have a manufacturing industry to be proud of for a start !

And (As I made very clear in another topic/thread a few weeks ago) I honestly believe Maggie and her minions were partially responsible for my fathers premature demise following the introduction of another popular moves of hers , the 'Poll Tax' !

As far as I am concerned she was like a pound coin, "Round , brassy and thought she was a sovereign"

Give it a fortnight and hell will be being privatized.

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How I despised "THAT" woman.

Enough has been said against her in previous posts.

I WILL NOT mourn her passing.

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It Seams to me, you either love her or hate her, so why? if you bought a council house at a knock down price you love her! if you was a miner you hate her! so people are looking after there own selfish interests based on how she affected them!. so take your head out of the sand switch the light on and think in terms of the good of the populous, don't think it is black or white. You still might hate her after taking a considered view, slagging her off does no good, she has left a family who are grieving and don't deserve the evil comments. The dead have gone she cant hear you. could you have done more when the country was in a mess? spouting off now doesn't alter one thing. WE are all to blame if you just moaned.

I personally think we played into her hand by going on strike, we should have gone to work but carried on the protests from within and keeping the businesses viable, or the unions buy them out and run the businesses, there was so many other options.

Alan Wack....not on the bandwagon. R.I.P.

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Whether you like her or not, this is an 87 year old very frail lady who has died.

For heavens sake let her rest in peace.

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Like dgbrit I left in 79, so only read about her in the Australian media.

But I will state for thr record, she wasn't the one who brought the NUM down, those policies were forged many years earlier, in fact when she had just entered politics during the mid 70's.

She just followed the "script" It was planned down to the last "nut and bolt", even down to provoking the militant Yorkshire miners and splitting the union by offering the Midlands miners special deals....

I found loads of old documents when researching the big strike, some had only just been released under the FOIA.

Everything hinged around Arthur Scargill, he fell for it hook line and sinker, just as the Tory's had expected, the "Joker" card was NACODS, would they follow the miners???? If they had, Thatcher would have been in serious trouble. Without NACODS, the Midlands miners couldn't have gone underground.

She did destroy the manufacturing base the UK relied on, forget the miners, BUT, for every mineworker, approx ten other jobs went......

Some of the biggest engineering companies have gone out of business, and many are now bringing millions of dollars of profits into the USA and other countries who bought UK mining engineering companies out...

When those companies folded/bought out, apprenticeships evaporated, skilled jobs vanished, unemployment rose to record levels, tax revenues vanished, crime increased.....List goes on and on.

Was the coal industry a viable industry, maybe half the pits should have been kept open, BUT, what the Tory's failed to see was it has cost the UK many times more than a "just profitable industry"

Many had lost sight why the coal industry was nationalised in the first place.

No, I feel nothing for Margaret Thatcher......Nor will I say RIP either, she ripped the heart out of Britain.

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Not wanting to be pedantic John but maggie entered politics back in 1949, first standing for parliament in 1951!

And to answer wacks post. We (The people who are still living here) are still paying the legacy of Thatchers politics. Selling off the council houses was a great piece of vote grabbing, that's all, getting the working class to vote for her, but then councils found themselves short in the coffers as there was no rent revenue coming in, so what did the government do to alleviate the situation ? That's right, "The Poll Tax" wasn't too popular was it ? So then they came up with the great idea of Council Tax instead. Which still meant we all ended up paying over £200 a year extra to pay for her balls ups, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

In other words, if they hadn't sold off the council houses for 8/9 grand each in 1980 (As an example) they would be getting that each year in rent now !

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Ah - but with a constant, reliable revenue stream like that, local authorities (especially those naughty wicked labour-dominated ones) would have been far too independent of central government largesse for comfort, wouldn't they?

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Sooner live with Maggies legacy than what Scargill would have bought to the table had she allowed that dyed in the wool Marxist to win.

Fortunately Scargill wasn't very clever and as a true socialist he never lets his guys vote on the issue in the first place.

Colin

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In other words, if they hadn't sold off the council houses for 8/9 grand each in 1980 (As an example) they would be getting that each year in rent now !

Or getting back the Housing allowance they were paying out to the unemployed, instead of it going to private landlords.

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No problem Ian, never heard of her before she took on leadership of the Conservative Party, and that last election, I just couldn't see any point in voting when I knew I'd be leaving Blighty for good.

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Scargill is still the ultimate parasite! He lives in luxury in a flat in one of London`s most sought after locations funded by the Mineworkers union (in the Barbican,London) although he owns property in Yorkshire.(rented out!)

Former National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) president Arthur Scargill has been awarded £13,000 in damages after he sued a trust fund of the union.

What was the money for? His car allowance! So as well as free luxury flat he gets a car allowance.

Try not to mention the legal fees so far. Chris Kitchen, the current national secretary of the NUM, said the action so far had cost the YATF £50,000.

What qualified him for the allowance,-his position with the trust.

The court heard that Mr Scargill took up a role with the trust after he retired from his £70,000-a-year post as national president of the NUM in 2002.

So a pension from the NUM ,a job with the Trust,a car allowance and a free flat and who knows what other perks we know nothing of.

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I don't recall a decent NUM President, I can't recall the one who was elected when I was a member now, just too long ago, think it was Gormless Gormley..

The one thing I did like about the NUM was there were only a couple of positions that were full time paid. All Lodge secretaries and Branch officials had to be working mine workers, as were Area Officials, they were given time by their pit Manager to attend to union business.

We did have some great Lodge Officials though, most were on the ball if there was a problem, and most pits had many of them, mostly relating to safety.

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BTW has paulus ever left Britain ever even for a holiday . he sure does bash people that did!!!!! its wearing a bit thin here.

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:) Will always remember Margaret as: 'Lady Thatcher, the milk snatcher' - a rotten thing she did on children's daily school milk.

But say what you will: 'The Lady had some balls' - despite having a good team of men around her, the main ones being husband Dennis and advisor: Bernard Ingram.

Sorry to see her go; Bless You Maggie. :)

PS: Was in London yesterday and noticed the amount of flags flying at half mast; despite the deadly game of Politics, we British know how to show respect.

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Remember Ms Jackson she was NOT the first.

Previous research had linked poor nutrition, low income and underachievement in schools and milk was identified as a key food that could help alleviate the problem.

In 1968, under Harold Wilson, the Labour government scrapped free milk for secondary school pupils

It earned Mrs Thatcher the nickname, Milk Snatcher, and haunted her throughout her career. In 1985 she was refused an honorary degree from Oxford University because of her education cuts.

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Who actually drank that disgusting milk? ......maybe the free milk contributed to the obese nation we have today......

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