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I remember as a kid, everybody on a street new everybody. They all looked out for everyone elses kids, street parties for special occasion like VE Day in 1995 on Harrogate street in Netherfield, everybody talked. These days its gone away, all the neighbours have 6 ft high fences, havent got 5 minits to check in on the elderly widow 4 doors down or just pop round for a cuppa and a chat. I miss those days. Am i the only one who does?

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Hi jimmy87notts,I lived on a pit estate in Gedling, and our doors were never locked,we would just tap the door ,shout yoohoo and walk in,no one ever had anything stolen,every one knew each other and we were all equal,no one better than any one else,if someone was going to the shops you just didn't go without seeing if you neighbor wanted anything,and if you was skint some one would always help out till Friday,I live in a nice area with good neighbors now,but i wouldn't leave my door unlocked even to pop upstairs for a minute, not for worrying about my neighbors being a problem, and our gardens are as you say surrounded with six foot fences,i do miss sitting on the door step and just waving and nattering as people walk by.

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We live on a very quiet cul de sac but always lock front and back doors as you just don't know who's wandering around .

Even a TV personality was in our "clink" , just round the corner from us on Friday for assault whilst drunk !

Breaking news : Rory McGrath bashed a man and woman that tried to assist him "whilst he was in drink"

http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/10422193.Comedian_Rory_McGrath_arrested_in_Pool_on_suspicion_of_assault/?ref=rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

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Sounds like a man with a problem,hope he gets sorted before he comes to grief and hurts some one badly,alcohol can cause a lot of sadness for people who are addicted and for there families and people who happen to be in the wrong place,i know from experience how devastating it can be to see someone you love an alcoholic.

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i too miss the real comunity spirit i some time sit on mt door step for a few mins when the weather is nice but it not the same half my nieghbours carnt speak enough english other than saying hello or good day wich most of them do or som just smile and say hello i have lived here for 10 years now but only know about 3 or four people by name the elderly indian lady who lives three doors from me has been in england for many years but still has very little english she always good day madam to me if we are in the st but i dont know her name last week anouther asian lady whent into her houseand stole money and jewlery from her,this was very unusual as she dose not normaly let anyone into her houseother than her familymakes me wonder if she thought this lady was one of her family as we know she sometimes gets a little confusedthe only reason i know is because the police came round the st to ask if anyone had seen this or had had her knocking on our doors this was about 10 am on a saturday morningits so dificult to know whoes who with such a diverseand a lot of the houses multy occupied half of whoom do not speak each others languageso although its a very traditional terraced st you dont get the community spirit you would get years ago.

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How about this then from Radstock (in Somerset) piggy and babs.

Council vetoes flag of St George after concerns raised about links to Crusades

A local council decided against flying the flag of St George after concerns were raised that it would offend the town’s 16 Muslim residents.

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A lot of people just move in for short term lets these days so the caring side never gets chance to build,since we moved into this house in the 1980s there is only two of our original neighbors left,the others have changed many times,we never even learned names.and also if possible ever yone is at work so you never really get to meet up.

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What an utter load of cr*p!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whose bloody country is it anyhow and since when is the patron Saint, St George, no longer to be displayed because it may offend some precious aliens?

If they do not like what Britain has to offer, together with its customs, legends and lores...................they can start swimming.

That Council should hang their heads in shame and mocked whenever seen in public!

Pathetic.

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Carni, in February this year I visited El Alamein and the site of thousands of British (and other) dead ,and was the turning point in the 2nd W.W. My father (1Xth Lancers) and my wife`s father (R.A.) fought there.My father was away for 6 years . On returning the greedy capitalists realised that they had destroyed the cream of British youth and so started importing labour from all over the world. This mass immigration has continued so that anyone can come to be parasites on the hard won freedoms of those young men.

I weep for our once Great Britain.

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I read the above posts with sadness, the spirit of the English people seems to be almost broken.

As an historian,I am constantly reading about the past,and it occurs to me that what has happened to England began after WW1.

The working class had taken the brunt of the war,the trust was gone in the leadership. The workers had the broken promises of the government, and by 1924 had organised 'trade unions',in an attempt to protect the working class from the pre-war days.

No government wanted to deal with the 'unions'. Then came WW2,again the workers took the brunt of the conflict,again they were promised better living and working conditions.

We were given the social benefits,health,education,etc', that was back in 1946/47.Since that day each government in turn has attempted to 'chip' away at them.Then came mass immigration,to undermine the wages the so called 'power' of the unions had negotiated for the workers.

We have all witnessed the social decline over the past 30 years in England. It is no wonder the community spirit is gone.I have great faith in the English character,it may be down,but not beaten

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stan st georges day i put my two towels white with red cross on same as the flag outside my bedroom windows i also have in the back of my car two pigs mascots one either side plus in my house window i have a painted glass picture poilice man once said to me do you think thats acceptable on this to wich i replied our name is piggott which means son of a pig and so pigs are our mascots as for the flags if you look up and down this st you will see several flags from other countries in windowsall the time if they can fly there flags in this country i can fly mine i have never had any complaints from my nieghboursand if they come and complain to me i will explain to them why i have lots of pigs in my car and in my houseand tell them to look in other windows at all the different flags of other countries flying we are in england so i will use my english flags.. he just said oh fair enoughand walked on.never told me to take them dowm or removemy pigs i have human rights too.

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hi brian i nottingham born and bred and proud on it so no one is going to tell me what i can and carnt do in my own country unless i am commiting a real crimei just stick to my pricipals i dont do you any harm so dont do any to me but rub me up the wrong way you will know it im a bit of a rotwieler in that way as the tax people found out.but i have never brocken the law.

yes piggy and i are not too bad mudgie plodding along as usual.

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Nice post, mudgie49 (#11). The British people have been let down by the Labour and Tory governments for such a long time now. The last Labour government has admitted it encouraged mass immigration into the UK and that it was a mistake. The British people are not 'down and out', they are just in a state of limbo and look at the present collection of ConLabLib MP's with despair. The problem with the UK is that most people tend to vote for the Party that they, and probably their parents, have always voted for, irrespective of their record in office. UKIP have been doing well lately despite a media campaign to ridicule them. Are UKIP the Party to have in power?, who knows but they seem to be saying what a lot of people want to hear. I watch Prime Ministers Question Time and when I see all the assembled MP's it goes through my mind that they're all on the gravy train with their expenses and houses, hoping that one day they'll land a mega paid job in the EU Parliament. I saw a comment above that stated 'Our country is no longer ours and never will be again'. Oh, yes it wiil, it's just a matter of time.

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I agree with you Michael booth, just look at what's happened with the English flag in Radstock Somerset they the rural council have banned the English flag because it will upset the 16 Muslims who live in Radstock.

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I received this minutes ago. Quite a wake-up call.

Salute the Danish Flag - it's a Symbol of Western Freedom

By Susan MacAllen

In 1978-9 I was living and studying in Denmark. But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim immigrants.

The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism one in development since the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time.

The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.

Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism. How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the streets - all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back to bite?

By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious. Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark 's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, equality for women, tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danish heritage and history.

An article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they forecasted, accurately, that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode. In the article they reported:

'Muslim immigrants constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.'

'Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.'

'Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.'

'Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem.'

'Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.'

It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws.

An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and Canada: some Muslims inDenmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark, a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night toSweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who, as a teenager, had dreadedcrossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.

In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration. Today, Denmark has the strictest immigration policies in Europe . (Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of 'racism' by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)

If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes. You must pass a test onDenmark's history, culture, and a Danish language test.

You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship.

You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you wish to bring a spouse intoDenmark , you must both be over 24 years of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to Denmark with you.

You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen, although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in Denmark , they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.

In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system, as it existed, was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. 'We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration.'

'The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now,' he said.

A large thorn in the side of Denmark's imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, 'The number of foreigners coming to the country makes a difference,' Hvilshoj says, 'There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that come.' And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, 'In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech.'

Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not necessarily what is done in Denmark.

The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.

Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened. Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters of Sharia law.

And meanwhile, Canadians clamour for stricter immigration policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole. As we in Canada look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our history. We would do well to look to Denmark, and say a prayer for her future and for our own.

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last night driving down our st we had jamacan indian pacistani polish and italian flags in the windows .one union jack one english flag but one of my muslim nighbours has in there windoe english unionjack and the pakistanni flag i think he would say if i asked why because hes proud to be all three

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carni, I grew up on gedling pit estate on queens ave. witch bit did you live on? my parents since moved up to the other end of gedling as it got quite rough on the pit estate, the kids and teens were out of control, peoples gardens were messy and not looked after, a lot of trouble some families were moved down there. then the other end we moved to was completely different. everyone on the street knows each other and everyone's business, neighbors are allways popping round to each other's to see how they are and for a chat. an elderly couple accross the road have an allotment and often pop over to my mum's and other neighbors with veg and charge 20p - £1 just to cover cost of seeds etc. its lovely, everyone has time for one another and since moving out, if any of the neighbors see me and my daughter walking up the road to visit my mum they allways make the effort to come say hello to us.

when I firsy moved to netherfield, I lived on hodgkinson st, no one bothered with each other. my neighbor was mentally ill + quite dangerous. she took drugs, played music till 7am sometimes 24hrs strait or more and so loud my doors and windows would vibrate and it'd wake my daughter. her back garden was full of rubbish and stunk in the summer. she tried to break into my house shouting she was goinf to kill my daughter for crying in the night. she pinned my cat down and went to shoot it with an air rifle then turned it on me when I tried to stop her. she was evil and got to the point where I didn't want to go in my own back garden to put the washing out in fear, she hid behind my bins once at night and jumped out at me screaming when I took rubbish out. I'm still uneasy goinf in my back garden now at night. needles to say she's lived there for 20 or so years and the council find it easier to just move her neighbors out, apparently 12 people lived in my house in the past 9 years cos of her.

then I moved to a much nicer area of Netherfield, it doesn't even look like netherfield! I have lovely neighbors either side, were allways talking over the garden fence, I allways pop round to the elderly neighbors next door especially as her husband is wheel chair bound now, people doors down allways speak and of their passing to go to the shop they allways see if we need anything fetching, as do I. we have 6ft fencing at the back but myself and the neighbors allways pop our heads over for a chat when we're outside. we have a lovely community spirit here. although I allways have my door locked, out of habbit and if I pop out the room and my daughters in the front room... I allways feel a little safer, its nice here... but you never know who might walk past!

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to back up my last post... went to put the bin out for collection, my daughter locked me out! I couldn't get over my 7ft gate around the back, next door heard me trying to get in and they let me cheekily run through their house and lift one of their fence panels to get to my back door which was luckily unlocked. I came in to a little girl in a crying mess wanting her mummy :( iv learnt never to leave the keys in the door when I pop out again... and I also must go and thank next door again tomorrow. I feel awful for rushing through their house. (they let me in, I didn't just let myself in lol)

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I am happy for you and your little girl to have found a safe and friendly area to live,We have nice neighbors and know we can call on them if needs be,Which does happen as i have a health problem and every so often we have to call an ambulance,and our neighbors are so kind,nothing is too much trouble for them,but i still keep my doors locked in case of opportunists passing by.

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On the subject of bins, my neighbour said there were 'Romanian gypsies' rifling through our bins this morning before they were emptied. The other day I followed a bloke (looked like a pikey) wandering around with a child's pushchair full of little bits of metal scrap. His eyes were everywhere and it didn't bother him that I was following him with my dog and watching his every move. After I passed him I turned around and saw him disappear up somebody's driveway. I assumed the owners were in the house because their car was on the drive but did feel guilty afterwards that I didn't report him.

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a Romanian gypsy (so the police informed me that she was by my description) tried to snatch my daughter on wollaton park. seems like they'll steal owt!!

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more likely eastan uripean gipsys we have them round here all the time ,we had a new cooker the other week dave put the old one down by the back gate whele we got the new one in intending to take it to scrap dealers later two hours later he went outside it was already gon we didnot hear anyone ,but still saved him and one of the lads strugling to get it into the car and take it to scrap yard.

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we have a lovely scrap man round here. allways knocks before taking owt. I leave a note for him now if I leave owt out

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