sallysqueak 0 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Hi Always wondered what the history is of the council houses on Coningswath rd in Carlton. Does anyone know? We're they built for miners? What era were they built? Does anyone know of an Irene Johnson who would have lived in one of the houses in 1950? (We have her name written on our outside wall in pen I think?) Does anyone have any photos of her in the property (long shot I know). Would love to know some history. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Not being from around there I do not know much about the area except that they could not be miner's houses as they were probably too far from Gedling pit. There was a lot about Carlton in two or three consecutive copies of the Nottingham Post Bygones but it was a few years ago. Maybe the Post has an archive of these things. Try writing to Andrew Smart at the Post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Welcome Sallysqueek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Hi Sally and welcome . Just had a quick look on the news archives and the earliest mention of the road in the Evening Post or Guardian seems to be 1940. I'm sure the map guys will be able to pin it down closer . I don't think the estate was just for miners . There is this about the meaning of the name : SKETCHES OF OLD NOTTINGHAM.name of " Coningswath " (i.e. King's ford), occurring in old times, where it crossed the river Meden. That this is the north road mentioned in the Doomsday survey of Nottingham there cannot be a doubt, Nottinghamshire Guardian East Midlands, England 07/02/1879 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sallysqueak 0 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Thanks for the replies, that's really interesting. I always wondered what Coningswath meant. It's a strange looking word and everyone spells it wrong! Will look into the eve post and also try to get hold of some local history books from the library Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Sorry to be pedantic, and as an aid to any body trying to help out, the road is actually Coningsworth Road. I went to school on there everyday for 5 years ! I would imagine they were built pre war in the 30s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob.L 1,084 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I always knew it as Coningswath, and Google seems to concur. A derivation of cyning (king) and waeth (Anglo-Saxon for ford) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Aahh Coningsworth (not wath) makes a difference , there is an Evening Post mention in the family announcements section from 1936 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I always knew it as Coningswath, and Google seems to concur. Sorry I only lived near there for nearly 40 years, I didn't realise I was mistaken for such a long time ! I've done some checking and it is called Coningswath road now!! It most certainly was Coningsworth in our Schooldays (It was the schools address after all) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 So the actual road signs are wrong? http://goo.gl/maps/w0Tm9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob.L 1,084 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Royal mail show it as Coningswath, too. For example: Coningswath Road Carlton NOTTINGHAM NG4 3SF http://www.royalmail.com/postcode-finder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 This is worth reproducing from rootsweb : Subject: Re: [NTT] Twitchel - and Conningsworth Road Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 I know this is a bit of a diversion from the subject, but your e-mail brought back a lot of memories.I lived on Portland Road, off Conningsworth Road , from about 1960. My grandparents lived on the junction of Valley Road and Foxhill Road, and I used to visit them often, crossing the fields you describe. My memory is that the field which is now the golf range was called'Russia'; this was divided by hedging from the next large field, called'Shepherd's field' . This in turn was divided by a track from the next field, which was called 'David's field'. David's field went right up to Fraser Square. I suppose Carlton Forum occupies all of this land now.We always used to call the track between David's and Shepherd's fields 'The Alps'. It ran from Coningsworth Road to Valley Road, close to the junction with Foxhill Road. There was another path, paralell with The Alps, but this time leading from Cavendish Road . We knew this as the twitchell. It ran from opposite J&ATaylor's shop, to Foxhill Road.There was another twitchell close by too. This one ran from Portland Road,to the top of Cavendish Road, by the junction with Westdale Lane. It was walled ,quite long, and badly lit - very frightening in the dark! I think I picked up all of these names from my mother and her family, who had always lived in the area - but like John, I have no idea of their origin.RegardsJane Gallagher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob.L 1,084 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I used to use those twitchells a lot when I was tasked with walking our dog as a lad. Looking at the old maps web site, houses started to appear on Coningswath in the 1930s, which would probably have followed-on from the development of the Porchester estate earlier in the decade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/beefsteak44/9679198204/" title="c road by Beefsteak44, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3755/9679198204_f632883c18_o.jpg" width="1600" height="791" alt="c road"></a> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 How come pictures don't appear properly any more? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 From the early 1950s...you can see some of the twitchells mentioned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I must have been up and down that road umpteen times as a lad too and then onto Frazer Road on my way home to Gardenia Grove in the 60s . Funnily enough when I moved to Cornwall in the early 80s and eventually got my own shop , one of my suppliers was J G Rolls who wholesaled hosiery and underwear and are at the beginning of Coningswath . Very good for extra large pants ! Looking at the streetview on the link above they are still going . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I actually googled them for their address (Just to show me I wasn't going mad !) and that comes up as Coningswath road too !! (Their premises used to be a Co op by the way) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I vaguely remember that building being a Co-op but wasn't it derelict for years ? Took me a while to decipher that 50s map as there was a lack of road names . But following Carlton Cemetery up it must be the big "Y" shape in the top left square . Cavendish is the dotted part of the Y and Coningswath to the left of it with Cavo school in the middle ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 How come pictures don't appear properly any more? Looks Like Flikr includes a linkback? Might be the problem? I use PB so I have no knowledge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I rang my Mum and she says it's always been Wath but pronounced Worth ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sallysqueak 0 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 JG Rolls is still there - until last month they still had a sign above it which had the old 0602 area code! It's just been replaced and looks much more up to date now! The road sign says wath but its pronounced worth.. Hence everyone who sends you a letter getting it wrong lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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