catfan 14,793 Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 This beggars belief, £50 fine ? I'd have chopped his legs off. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-26336618 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Couldn't the law have put him and his bike in their vehicle and whisked him away, thereby avoiding further delays. They were as dim as he was. They just love holding up the traffic don't they. Oh you horrible motorists, just look how important we are. Pri6ks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 The police vehicle and officer were actually causing as much of a hazard if not more than him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 This beggars belief, £50 fine ? I'd have chopped his legs off. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-26336618 No just sectioned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilboro-lad 294 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 He was in less danger there than he is on any 'A' road with lorries hurtling past him. What's the big deal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 The big deal is this, if he is so thick that he didn't understand that he shouldn't have been cycling there in the first place, then he really should never be let loose on any road in charge of anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 The problem is he was breaking the law. I have enough problems with cyclists riding their cycles on the pavement & in pedestrian areas already. I have had cyclists moan at me for getting in their way in pedestrian areas when I point out the fact they think I'm some kind of idiot. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 It wasn't god that told me to do it but the mobile phone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 What's the difference. LOL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilboro-lad 294 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Haven't the police got better things to do than stop the traffic for 90 minutes because some naughty chap was on the hard shoulder? What about the 3rd lane racers all doing 90 in a 70 zone? Are they breaking the law? Nah, didn't think so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Having been involved in the investigation of of fatal traffic traffic accidents for many years I could tell many stories of the stupidity of motorists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 As I've said before, most of the stupid and selfish type of cyclists probably drive cars as well and are probably stupid and selfish motorists also. It is down to the person and not the mode of transport. They are probably also complete tw-ts when pushing a supermarket trolley as well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 When I was first driving as a teenager, my dad said " Always consider every other motorist to be an idiot" . I have done and it's kept me safe. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
firbeck 859 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I operate a cycle hire centre in our local country park, you cannot believe what people think they can do with bikes, particularly with respect to charity rides. Last September I had a couple of over weight, non cycling, couch potatoes thinking they could ride around the M25 on a tandem for charity, just like that!! While I applaud their efforts for committing themselves to Mencap, it clearly wasn't on, they didn't cycle and had never been on a tandem, ask Bilbraborn how much training we did for our epic tandem rides, and we were teenagers at the time. I pointed out that riding on the M25 was illegal, then it was decided they were merely following it's route, not that they had considered that, or how far it was. In the end I refused to have anything to do with it, the issue was transferred to our Brentwood department and the last I heard was that the tandem hadn't been returned, surprise, surprise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hotpointdave 7 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Wonders of a idiotic brain never seizes to amaze me, what's gone off in that cyclist head is no small problem, What a spoon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StephenFord 866 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Re #13, Here is a quote from a book by a former West Hartlepool bus driver. His instructor told him "Remember that out of sight round the next bend is an escaped madman driving towards you on the wrong side of the road, in a steam roller with no brakes at 60 miles an hour. Be ready for him!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 It could have been Fred Dibnah 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Interstate cyclists use the hard shoulder of our freeways over here with little to no danger to others.... In fact truckers pull over to the next lane to avoid pulling the cyclists into their "wake" Traffic moves a lot faster on US freeways than UK motorways. As others have said, the police caused more problems than the cyclist. I won't go into how much I hate the nanny state, people should be able to take full responsibility for themselves, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob.L 1,090 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Never ceases to amaze me how anyone thinks they just have to follow the instructions from Sat-Navs (GPS), even if logic tells them it's wrong. You read about these drivers who take goods vehicles or buses down cart-tracks or under low bridges "because the box told them to". As I was driving back from Newcastle once, I had one tell me to turn left immediately. I was on the A1(M) at the time, and that would have sent me down a rather steep embankment into a ditch. To make matters worse, for the next ten miles, it kept telling me to make a u-turn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StephenFord 866 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I am a curmudgeon ! I do not have, and do not intend to have, a SatNav. Calculators have made people mathematically illiterate, and SatNavs are making them geographically illiterate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I had a sat nav for Xmas a few years ago. I didn't want it, but the wife bought it for me. First time we used it was in Basingstoke, whilst locating a National Trust property. Followed the instructions and ended up in the slip road to a multi storey car park. No way out, I had to get a ticket on entry, drive round to the payment machine, pay £2.60 and come out . What a joke. I was brought up on maps at an early age and am rarely stumped. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,158 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Sat navs take away people using their inititive,like you basfordred bought up on maps and dont want owt to do with em,anyway i could sit and study a good atlas all night, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I have never ever needed a sat-nav as I really do have a good sense of direction and can read maps very well. However. My lovely missis has many many many talents. Finding her way to places is definitely not one of them. If she tried to drive to Skeggy on her own she could well end up in North Wales. Bless her! And I agree with Firbeck. Riding a tandem is a partnership and even 2 experienced cyclists would struggle at first on a tandem. You have to get used to it and develop a strategy for pedaling and balancing together. Once you have mastered it though. WOW!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MELTONSTILTON 452 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Through one of the woods I used to work in there is a track, at its entrance on the main road are 3 signs, the first says unsuitable for motor vehicles, the second says no through road, and the third is a width warning of 4 metres, But despite those warnings it is surprising how many people, mainly tourists go down it, because the sat-nav tells them it is their route. Once we had 3 Dutch family's with cars and caravans, stuck at the end of the track, not being able to move forward or turn around, because the track ends in a deep cutting and a dead end. We have been told it is on the sat-nav, because it is still classed as a normal road, even though it has been closed since the 2nd world war by German troops, who filled in the cutting by blowing up the banks on both sides, to stop the movement of allied troops, like a lot of roads around here, and some like this one were never opened... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Don't blame the sat-nav, that's like blaming the knife for stabbing someone. Blame the idiots that misuse them because they are a sandwich short of a lunch pack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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