benjamin1945 16,158 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I believe the Police of today have a very difficult job,whereas years ago they were aloud to use a certain amount of discretion when dealing with petty offences,today they have to go by the book and i am sure are under pressure to produce statistics for their political masters. Then when the case gets to court its dismissed,WHAT A WASTE OF OUR MONEY. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 AND a %^&*%$* waste of police time too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 They don't do themselves any favours though. When we were burgled about ten years ago, it took them 4 and a half hours to come from Oxclose Lane, but a minor bump between two old motorists outside Tesco produced seven cars. None of whose occupants knew what to do. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Without a doubt the Police are not what they were five years ago, and certainly nothing like they were thirty years ago. In recent years all forces have forced officers to retire once they had served more than thirty years. That meant they lost their most experienced officer, often working in specialised departments. The sting in the tail is that a recent civil action based on age discrimination has suceeded leavin Nottinghamshire (and other forces) liable to pay compensation to all the officers they have forced to retire. We know what that means don't we, more money to find + more cuts! PCSO anybody? The Criminal Justice system is in the same sad state. But there is a bright side to all this, politicians have just been awarded a massive pay rise, that should motivate them to sort the mess out. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TGC 216 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Wot we need is more Tug Wilsons! I'll get me hat on... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Commo 1,292 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Re #4 a response to your last para Mick, - Yeah, right ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Too much government interference in the police force. They can no longer effectively do the job they are paid to do. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 In 2012 the opportunity was given to the public to take control of and have more say in their police forces. This was called 'Police & Crime Commissioner' Great theory. Unfortunately the Machinery and funding behind Political candidates, led to ordinary candidates often being beaten by politicians. I am reliably informed that the Current Office of Notts PCC salaries alone runs in the region of £500,000. I wonder what is the actual cost is overall? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,158 Posted March 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 i am and always have been a law abiding citizen,however as a young man i was arrested (wrongfully)for affray.I was exiting the Palais and a big fight was in progress on the steps outside,and a lad i knew was trying to get at the Bouncers weilding part of a metal road sign,i told him not to be daft and took it off him. Bad move,because the Police turned up at the same time,seeing me with the sign in my hands,i was disarmed and pinned to the wall then thrown in a van.Despite my protests of innocence,they were having none of it.to cut a story short i was eventually de arrested. I dont blame the Police i must have looked like a right thug I JUST WONDERED IF ANY OF YOU HAVE SUFFERED OWT SIMILAR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 But there is a bright side to all this, politicians have just been awarded a massive pay rise, that should motivate them to sort the mess out. Yes & pigs might fly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Benjamin. My misis says I always look suspicious. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 I was once stopped by a policeman(on foot ) while riding my push bike home from the pub at lunch time. I'd had a drop too much he just told me to get off & walk. I did as I was told with out a problem, that was in 1967 I think. To-day I would be arrested & dragged to court & fined a stupid amount. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StephenFord 866 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 ...and another thing - they are now tasked with investigating infringements of recent legislation that decriminalised what used to be forbidden, and criminalised the expression of opinions that used to be taken for granted as normal. That is on top of all the other stuff that they already cannot find time to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,158 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Nottm post today,19yr old steals bike value £1000,when confronted threatens man with a MACHETE, Given sentance of 200 hrs of community work. THAT WILL SHOW EM" dear oh dear. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Don't know why they bother. No wonder people take the law into their own hands 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 As I've stated elsewhere, and it may not be popular but bring on the vigilantes . Step out of line and you're toast. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Cant see that one but Michael Stokes sent one down today. Knifeman jailed for Radford stabbing after he became "infatuated" with pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Oh I see now Thief pulled out machete when confronted by victim Judge John Pini, he's new? Handley, who had never been in trouble before, was ordered to carry out 200 hours of community work. Judge John Pini QC told him: "Producing a weapon like that in public has a risk that it would be used to cause serious and even fatal injuries and is taken very seriously by the courts." However, the judge accepted that Handley only produced the machete so that he could escape. Read more: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Judge Stokes must be slipping, only 5 years for nearly killing the wench ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 bit of a raid on one of the houses near me at teatime counted at least 12 police going in the house brought out one person in cuffs and loaded them into police van, seemed a bit of an overload to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 He's probably failed to pay his parking fine, babs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 4 police cars and police van both ends of st blocked of by cars van outside the house they were making sure no one came in or out the st Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Judge Stokes must be slipping, only 5 years for nearly killing the wench ? The judges do not decide the sentences, they are laid down on a tariff by parliament. Once the sentence is handed down it is then halved (Parliament!) Judge Stokes often comments on his limitation in sentencing, but it is little reported. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 The judges do not decide the sentences, they are laid down on a tariff by parliament. Once the sentence is handed down it is then halved (Parliament!) Judge Stokes often comments on his limitation in sentencing, but it is little reported. Point taken ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Judge Stoke was an understudy of the renowned, late Judge Hopkins... "I'm not scared of you, sonny" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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