Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted May 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Gosh all that moving house would sent me mad. Our first home together was an attic flat in Glasgow. Very cosy but cold and 4 quid a week.. We moved to a posher flat at a fiver a week with about ten carrier bags of possessions. We bought a tenement flat and moved in with a car load of next to nothing. When we moved out four years later we had to hire a box Luton. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MelissaJKelly 2,120 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I wonder how many times I'll move in my lifetime. I hope not as many as some of the posters here! We've lived in this house for around 18 years. I don't want to leave... Father says differently though lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,139 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 LOOK on every move as a new "chapter" new adventure" Melissa, 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilboro-lad 294 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 It's OK moving when you are renting but when you have to buy and sell (as I am now) it's a right pain. Three months and we STILL haven't exchanged contracts. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,507 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 In my experience it will normally take 3 months from a buyer wanting your home to completion. Having said that, our experience this past month in Miami was quite different, we only had two weeks to get out. Our move from Hertfordshire up here to Nottingham 10 years was stressful too. The buyers were renting and wanted to move in in 6 weeks. We were downsizing considerably so had 2 skips in the driveway and a bonfire burning for 2 weeks. We also had to find a house in Nottingham that we could move into in that short space of time. We were driving up here and looking at around 8 houses in a day. Struck lucky with this house because the sellers had bought another house already and were staying here while they did the new one up. They were happy to take our money! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 stephen my friends graham and lesley have lived an sandringham rd all there married life 41 years 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MelissaJKelly 2,120 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 LOOK on every move as a new "chapter" new adventure" Melissa, That I most certainly will Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,681 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Be wary of buying a house in Holland . If you and a seller agree a price on a property you then have to sign a pre-sale contract. My son and his Dutch wife did this on a small house and then arranged a full survey which threw up numerous faults, such as rotten woodwork and possible subsidence but worst of all, asbestos under the roof tiles . As they have a 3 year old daughter they backed out the deal , told the agent they didn't want to take any chances . Tough said the agent we estimate the cost of repairs to be under the allowed amount on the contract ( 5000 euros) , so if you back out there is a 10% of the purchase price penalty . It will cost you 17000 euros to back out ! It would appear that the vendor is now sueing for this amount . ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilboro-lad 294 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Why are they backing out? A bit of rot in the woodwork is a DIY job. 'Possible' subsidence? What does that mean? It is or it isn't. Not only that - but the next house they buy will have asbestos under the tiles - so does yours and mine. Seek and ye shall find. A few years back car brake pads contained loads of asbestos. As they wore down the dust blew into the atmosphere. Roofs are ventilated to prevent rot in the rafters. The dust blows into the roof void and settles. We've all got it. It means nothing as it stays where it is in the loft. So looking at it logically, the agent is right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkazana 1,736 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Perhaps the answer here is in retrospect to have a survey done before signing anything? I wouldn't knowingly want to buy a house containing asbestos, I have worked in buildings that contain it, all the materials have to be labelled and not disturbed. Some of the kitchens I have worked in contained it in the ceiling tiles and we were not even allowed to clean them ourselves. Knowing how we like to store stuff in the roof cavity/loft the chances are that the asbestos could be disturbed and the dust will find its way into the house at some stage, granted not in the quantities that have been reported to be dangerous, but anyone having respiratory problems, eg asthma, could still be at risk. And it costs loads to have it removed (certainly over here) as it has to be done by specialists and disposed of correctly. (I daresay it would be the same in Holland.) I know this as we had drainpipes containing asbestos at our last house and looked into having them changed. The cost was prohibitive. In the end it was decided the risk was minimal as they were outside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilboro-lad 294 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 The only people at risk are people like me who spent hours every day crawling around in lofts pulling wires through. In Oz I lived in a house MADE of asbestos. Artex of the 70s and 80s contains asbestos. Every house in the UK contains asbestos dust from the old brake pads. You can't avoid it. Forget about it, you can't change what can't be changed. You are at far more risk from vehicle exhausts so don't let the kids out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,681 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 The Dutch system is that you have this pre-sale contract that states the agreed price before you do anything else. There are clauses for backing out , I.e. survey ,as long as remedial work costs more than 5000 euros and finance not being available . In the pre contract the seller stated" no known asbestos". To be honest I think they were stitched up . The surveyor they used was one recommended by the selling agent There were more faults than I first listed and it wasn't a case of bodging up windows , they all needed replacing, as well as removing the tiles to get at the asbestos . How all that could be done for under 5000 including the other jobs, I will never know . The cost of the work is not deducted from the selling price , its up to the buyer to fund it . There is no loft space the ceilings are immediately below the tiles . Grandaughter has had numerous breathing problems and he just doesnt want to take a chance with her health . They are now seeing a solicitor next week to see if they can avoid the charge . At some point they need a builder to give a realistic price of ghe likely costs even though they have now lost interest in it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilboro-lad 294 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 You can't expect to buy an old house and do nothing to it. It's just not realistic. If it needs new windows etc, then that should be clearly obvious on viewing, and as I said before, your house has asbestos in it, as does everyone else's. If you look for it then you'll find it. Asbestos has nothing to do with breathing difficulties, the fibres have little hooks that create a hazard decades later. Sounds to me like they've just gone off the boil, which is why the system of pre-contracts was introduced.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Most states over here have disclosure laws over asbestos lead paint etc.. I recall many years ago, the missus boss, we were talking about the new Oz asbestos disposing laws, and he said there is one product still in use we cannot get reid of that is a known cause of cancer.... It would stop the world if banned, even today, and not many people know what it is and most of us use it/them..... Try the tyres used on every vehicle, it fills the air with fine dust daily, has chemicles well known to cause lung cancer!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilboro-lad 294 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 That makes sense. Go into any loft and you'll find black dust. The rubber has to go somewhere when a tyre wears down or we'd never need to replace them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I hope anyone who goes into a loft of a house wears a suitable dust mask, fibre glass dust and particles are killers.... Our generations next "asbestos" problem... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I wonder how many people still have garages or sheds built with asbestos. If you want a new one you have to have specialists to remove the old one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilboro-lad 294 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Most tips still take it. Just hose it down before dismantling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkazana 1,736 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Better still Bilbro-lad seems to be an expert in that too so hire him to come, dismantle and dispose of all your asbestos. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 A Hazmat team has to be hired here and in Canada, whole area sealed off, workers in pressurized suits with breathing protection, asbestos has to be watered down, broken up carefully and placed in sealed bags and transported to an approved hazmat facility where it's place in drums then sealed. Top soil is also removed and bagged, sealed and disposed of in an approved manner. Irony is, in the foothills of California, around the 1500 ft elevation mark, are thin seams of asbestos being weathered and blown all over the place.....LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,139 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Finished moving house yesterday,thought i'd tell you all,in case you thought you'd got rid of me,only moved a mile but aint it a nightmare.nice to be back 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 When's the House Warming Party Benjamin Hope your all very happy in your new Home We missed Ya 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,507 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Yep, we missed your humour Benjamin1945 and it did cross me mind you'd got fed up with us! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,139 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Carnie,my house would be warming to you anytime me duck' Lizzie,how could i get fed up,talking to lovely folk like you, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 You're such a flirt, benjamin1945. Great to have you back. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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