catfan 14,793 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 When you look back through the the thread, there are 3 people here who know someone who has experienced this sort of abuse, and that's with a smallish number of people here. Alleged. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karlton 582 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I sympathise with you carni. To hear this kind of abuse happening at anytime is horrifying, but to happen close to home must be devasting. you can never forget anything like this, its so sad. rolf Harris and the like should be put away for a very long time. I watch Songs Of Praise every Sunday and find it comforting to know that there is some decent people left in this world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banjo48 928 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Alleged. I find this remark insulting. It's bad enough to have been abused but then for it to be insinuated it didn't happen. Ok I cannot prove my experience and maybe others cannot either, time has passed, life moves on but memories are very real and never go away. And for that matter why would anyone make up something like that ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Because some people do, my remark wasn't intended to be flippant or cause any offence to anyone, but, in law no one is guilty until proven, until then, these are Alleged offences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Oh, I never insinuated these offences never happened, did I ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
firbeck 859 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Back in the 50's when I was just a kid, paedophiles were a terrible problem around the areas where we used to play, Balloon Woods, Jacko's Oller, they used to try and target young boys like us, but, given the attitudes of parents at that time, you couldn't talk to your folks about this sort of thing, inevitably you had the feeling that you would be blamed for anything that happened. We were very astute and recognized the problem and tried to avoid these evil men, however it couldn't last forever. One evening, a group of us naughty boys lit a fire on the site of the old bell pit next to the Wollaton Brickworks level crossing. Along came this well dressed, brillcreme soaked 40 something bloke, who went along with our little game then formed us into a circle and threatened to tell our parents and the police for lighting fires if we didn't do what he wanted, ie, dropping his trousers and pants to reveal his, to us, enormous tackle, and demanded we played with it. I shouted run and we legged it, however some of the kids elected to tell their dads, not a good idea. One father armed himself with a pickaxe handle and dragged us along to find the man, then we had to go through the procedure of dealing with a sweaty constable on a bike who cycled over from Wollaton Police Station, taking two hours to do it and asking us intimate questions. Then I had to go home and face my unsympathetic parents, followed the next day by being dragged up to school and having to repeat what had happened to us in front of class, total humiliation, not a nice experience for a 10 year old. My best friend and I had trained and looked after his neighbour's dog, he was a border colly and absolutely followed our every instruction, he was such a lovely dog. We would not go out without him, after these incidents, one day we were train spotting on the bridge and saw a devious bloke. Chips latched on to him straight away and we tracked him down, he'd attempted to assault some little kids in the Kennels, one of them had fired a catapult into his nether regions!! We found him threatening a young couple, we shouted a warning to them and he pulled out a claw hammer on us, the dog tore his arm to pieces, then he legged it down the old canal with us in hot pursuit, unbelievably we chanced apon a group of Teddy Boys/Greabos armed with every weapon imaginable, 22 air rifles, shotguns, lovely blokes, they heard our story and went after the scumbag, his corpse must be still at the bottom of the filled in canal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
briyeo 56 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I find it interesting how easy it has been for news agency's to find fitting footage of these celebrities, for instance one victims account describes RH actions as being like an octopus, the BBC illustrating the comment by showing him painting an octopus on a TV show. If my late mother ever took to a male celebrity she always used to say " I bet he's not that nice in real life". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katyjay 5,091 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 He got 5 yrs, 9 months in jail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJBrenton 738 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 69 months? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Re # 56, Many years ago when I was 15, I was cycling from work at Hucknall pit along the leen pad/tin bridge footpath to home at Bestwood Village when 3 young crying girls stopped me, (found out later they were 8 & 9) they said a bloke had told them to get their pants down & then flashed at them. I was taking them to their homes when they went berserk, the bloke walked past us bold as brass & I knew him as he worked at Hucknall pit also. Of course I told the Police who he was & he was nicked & pleaded guilty at court. I got my name in the paper & a letter of commendation from the judge & chief constable of Notts + £2 reward. I was scared he'd get me on my own at work & paste me (he was a big bloke) but he never came back to the pit.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I don't know how the UK prison system is these days, but my guess is that considering his age he might be out in three months with good behavior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomlinson 879 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 But at least he'll have some time to reflect on his crimes, which the man Saville never had, unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulus 541 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Let's hope he drops his soap in the showers, & some hunky guy whispers in his ear................d'yer know what it is yet? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkazana 1,736 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Interesting that he won't have to pay any compensation don't you think? Wonder if that is to stop any possible bounty hunters coming out of the woodwork now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor S 2,003 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 I found this article on YouTube after watching a video on another thread (What are you laughing at today? (Youtube.com).) If the contents are only a fraction true, there are some very, very big cover-ups in Britain that go all the way to the top. What is more frightening, check out some of the other videos displayed as usual down the right side of the screen on the same site - allegations re Saville, Starr et al. We must be protected or secluded down here in Oz - not heard of most of the allegations that some of those videos put forward and to suggest Cliff Richard is involved in any of the activities portrayed on the above video is incomprehensible. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 The term 'well connected' comes to mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor S 2,003 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 True, Mick. But if there is any substance of truth in the contents of the above video, surely a public examination should take place. The allegations make those against Harris pale into insignificance. We are talking about a Prime Minister, MPs, royal equerries, organised child sex rings, paedophile on a grand scale and....murder 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 David Cameron wants 'answers' on paedophile dossier David Cameron has asked a senior civil servant to "find answers" about a missing dossier on alleged paedophiles at Westminster in the 1980s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Its not all bad news for dirty old Rolf due to overcrowding Harris will be temporarily held at Feltham Young Offenders Institution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulus 541 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Felt-em? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karlton 582 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 he might be put into one of these walk in walk out come back when you like prisons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denshaw 2,871 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Sounds like Wetherspoons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,464 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Nah; if he went to Wetherspoons no-one would be able to decide when to start his sentence. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Nothing surprises me anymore. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 The more you dig, the more you find. Elm Guest House – Child sexual abuse – ONE BIG cover-up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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