Old Sneintonian 15 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 I love the exclamation mark after the "Lamp" ..............wasted on those who do not know what kind of establishment this was back then................to give you some idea, think of those old cowboy films when a stranger walks in, the pianist stop playing, the saloon goes quiet & a tumbleweed blows by ...................oh yeah & the Sherriff never ventured inside 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,118 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Like walking in a Pub in Bulwell in the 60s..........lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 And for those who weren't familiar with The Lamp.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSR 286 Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 Went for a wonder with Letsavagoo's brilliant map on the football, bobbers mill thread. Rather then interupting, better to post here, noticed there's an additional 'fever hospital' near the Asylum, new one on me, what year was the map? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSR 286 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Not surprised this has no responses, I was being a lazy so & so, went back with a magnifying glass, the maps 1899, published 1901. I have been looking for a definitive guesstimate on the closing of the Asylum for awhile. The 'fever hospital' is also very intriguing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 hours ago, HSR said: I have been looking for a definitive guesstimate on the closing of the Asylum for awhile. According to information on the University of Nottm website, Sneinton Asylum closed in 1902 when it was replaced by the opening of Saxondale Hospital. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSR 286 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 Thanks Cliffton, yes that was my best summation, I'll go with that. I think i do recall reading (5 years ago..a long time nowdays) of transfer's to Ransom Road which was no longer fee-paying, and also references up to the early twenties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSR 286 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Had a Great Uncle who after doing over forty year's corporation heavy work was a Caretaker at the Oliver Hind boy's club, early 1950's. Found this.. http://britishhomechild.com/dakenye-farm/ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,267 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Very interesting article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 6 hours ago, HSR said: Had a Great Uncle who after doing over forty year's corporation heavy work was a Caretaker at the Oliver Hind boy's club, early 1950's. I don't know if it's the same location, but the name Oliver Hind Boys Club still exists, on Edale Road, Sneinton. https://goo.gl/maps/FJUW6c7kY8PW9NVE8 And there was/is also a Monty Hind Boys club. Monty's real name was Jesse Francis Montague Hind, and according to this link he was a nephew of Oliver. https://secure.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/RollOfHonour/People/Details/22191 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoseQueen 14 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Hi All, Some interesting reading on this topic from you all. As I understand it..living only yards from its location for first part of my life, Sneinton Asylum on Carlton Road( now King Edward Park) was the main county Asylum when it was built. What is fairly shocking is ..how big it was. There must have been a lot of pretty sick people in Notts in those days.Though to be honest, women only had to be pregnant and unmarried to get sent there and men probably only have a drink problem. So in modern terms that's most of us after a regular friday night out in Nottm LOL. In the 1970's there was a boys club on Dakeyn St which I thought was Oliver Hind's - though I didnt go there. Sneinton Pubs such as 'The Lamp' and King Billy ( King William iv), Earl Howe, Bath Inn, Madhouse, Duke of..well whatever, and many others were well known to my Mum and her merry band of friends who hoiked around them one after the other most friday nights frequently arriving home somewhat wobbly. All sneinton pubs had cliques and everyone looked at anyone who came in the door. My Dad was happy they left Sneinton as wasn't a social drinker particularly but Mum has fond memories and i think missed it for a very long while. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, RoseQueen said: , Sneinton Asylum on Carlton Road( now King Edward Park) was the main county Asylum when it was built. What is fairly shocking is ..how big it was. There must have been a lot of pretty sick people in Notts in those days. I think it was more a case of people being sent to the asylum because no-one knew what else to do with them. In those days "mental hospitals" were used as a dumping ground for people who couldn't be treated or understood in any other way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 And now they live amongst us. 'Care in the Community'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katyjay 5,085 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 I remember when looking at some census returns, there would be an asylum and everyone living in there would be listed. Under 'occupation' it said lunatic. Not very P.C. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,424 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 You need to watchit LOL. they might deport you to Australia Sorry Oz, I couldn't resist it. You gave me a smile. Beaurocracy cannot think outside of their own forms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,217 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Loppy, I'd like to point out that South Australia is the superior state of our Commonwealth it alone being free settled. I agree that the mindset of people within government at all levels is different to that of the populace, particularly when it comes to forms, either on paper or on-line. They are often illogical or if on-line don't work properly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSR 286 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 7:31 PM, katyjay said: I remember when looking at some census returns, there would be an asylum and everyone living in there would be listed. Under 'occupation' it said lunatic. Not very P.C. When seeing that category on the 1911 census, I wondered what is the difference between a lunatic & an imbecile! I find the 1911 census fascinating as it was written in our ancestors own hand. Horrible line through by some officiouis so & so, I understood what they were saying, children born, & still alive, he had taken second wife.. a second wife, clever clogs enumerator! Only had one chap that appeared in that tick box, his dad listed him deaf & dum, lived with his mum after father's death, worked on the railway as a porter...and went on to marry their lodger in the mid thirties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bamber 128 Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 Moron, cretin, imbecile, idiot were gradations of what became known, more politely, as mental handicaps (a term first used in Germany before the war) and are now challenges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,594 Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 Cretinism is caused by lack of the thyroid hormone induced by iodine deficiency. This can be prevented/corrected where necessary by giving some form of iodine to the pregnant mother and the condition being recognised very early in the newborn baby. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,267 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 There must be an awful lot of cretins about then, including me! Every other person I speak to lately has a failing thyroid and is on replacement thyroxine. I'd love to know why. Is it environmental? No one seems to know. I can say one thing. For some time before it was diagnosed, I was convinced I had dementia. My brain just wouldn't work. Very frightening indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,094 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 I've been on Levothyroxine for quite a while now. My GP said, when diagnosed, that I was borderline under active. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonab 1,644 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 I seem to remember that there were several Derbyshire villages (in the Peaks, I think) known for Derbyshire neck which was a manifesation of cretinism and shown with goitres as well as low intellect. All due to iodine deficiency. I also remember that you could buy iodised salt for household use to help prevent iodine deficiencies. Cerebos was one brand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,267 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Correct, Jonab. I have an ancient medical encyclopedia which lists Derbyshire Neck, together with a quaint drawing. How much iodine deficiency is to blame for low intellect problems in places such as tiny villages and how much is down to in-breeding is a good question! Keep taking the tablets, Beekay!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Exothalmic goitre. I remembered it from my A level biology studies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,594 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Jill Sparrow said: Correct, Jonab. I have an ancient medical encyclopedia which lists Derbyshire Neck, together with a quaint drawing. How much iodine deficiency is to blame for low intellect problems in places such as tiny villages and how much is down to in-breeding is a good question! Keep taking the tablets, Beekay!! ‘Derbyshire born and Derbyshire bred; strong in the arm but thick in the head!’ I’m pretty sure this is no longer the case, now the iodine problem is recognised.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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