caeperthi 5 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 I am posting as I grew up in the Queen Adelaide pub. As a child I remember being quite unsettled living there and it was when I was about 16 the grounds were dug up to find the remains of the old lunatic asylum. I have quite a lot of recollections and interest in the subject and wondered if anyone on the forum knows anything about the asylum or the general area around the Queen Adelaide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Welcome to Nottstalgia caeperthi. I think you may have found a subject which hasn't been mentioned here before. Quite a few people may not know the place you are referring to, so here's a clue. Bottom end of Carlton Road. Dakeyne Street - which is to the south of the Asylum grounds - still exists; as do many of the other roads in the area. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Welcome to Nottstalgia caeperthi, I'm not sure if this will work, but it is a site I use often, and if you type in Asylum and Sneinton. You may find it interesting. Good Luck. http://www.nottshistory.org.uk/default.htm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Plenty of mentions in the news archives but mainly various reports of the accounts etc. or adverts for tenders for supply of goods to the asylum . This is a typical report from 1881 , showing the comings and goings of inmates and mentions the new asylum at Mapperley . Earliest mention was in 1858 when tenders were requested for building work at the asylum . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 According to Robert Mellors in "Sneinton then and now" (p 1913) The asylum for the town & county was built 1810-12 with additions made in 1829. Total cost £31,000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I was just about to add that there is mention of the Queen Adelaide pub at Sneinton , prior to the tender for building work at the asylum in 1858 . So with Bubblewraps new info , looks like there was a much older asylum in that area that had been enlarged or altered ? This advert showing an auction at the Queen Adelaide in 1855 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 In 1874 the Borough decided to sell out & move to mapperley Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Commo 1,292 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 DAVID W and Cliff, thanks again for your archive resources, I was unaware of a Sneinton Asylum until now. Does the first newspaper report refer to Mapperley Hospital as the new Borough Asylum I wonder? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 My first map (post #2) was 1901. This is from around the 1830s (possibly before the additions made in 1829 mentioned by bubblewrap). Not really enough detail to identify any differences, although the surrounding area has obviously changed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Commo seemed to be called the Borough Asylum . Here's mention of a letter from Sept 1880 A similar letter was read from Dr. Powell, superintendent of the new Borough Asylum, Mapperley Hill, expressing his entire satisfaction at the manner which 243 patients had been removed thither. —Mr. Hatherley 01 September 1880 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 The " i " in Sneinton seems to be a variable ! Its there in the 1830 map and not there in the later news reports ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denshaw 2,869 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Is that why the Duke of Devonshire pub is known as Madhouse? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Is that why the Duke of Devonshire pub is known as Madhouse? http://www.dreamtargets.com/nottm80s/gallery_0037.htm There is a plaque outside but no pictures of it anywhere on the net? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 so it stood roughly were the king georges park stands today i never knew ther had been a lunatic asylum there. very interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 And a few photos of it. This is a rear view from Windmill Lane And from the 1830s, looking at the front from Carlton Road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fynger 841 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 few changes in them 2 pics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 True. Here's another which Pic the Past say is 1967. You can match these two blocks with the layout on the rear photo in #18. And on the extreme right of this picture, you can see the entrance steps which are shown on the earlier illustration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveN 1,118 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Here's a link to an article about the asylum http://www.thorotonsociety.org.uk/publications/articles/asylum.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fynger 841 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Now it's got 4 storeys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caeperthi 5 Posted August 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Thanks to all for the interest shown and the information - very interesting indeed. When we lived in the pub we knew nothing about the asylum until the grounds were dug up and the remains of part of it were found including the area where people were kept in manacles. It was quite upsetting - I was quite young at the time and it was the first time I realised what sort of things happened - funny enough I worked for a while in mental health - never forgot what what found in the grounds.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Sneintonian 15 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Well firstly I like to say Hello to all, I found my way here while google’ing for old images of Windmill Lane & up came a picture of the Asylum, which brought back many happy memories (I hasten to add not as an inmate) The Nottingham Asylum was, once the new Mapperley Asylum opened, allowed to be used as a boys club (Oliver Hind) & later The 2nd Boys Brigade aka “Dako” (being located on Daykyne St)I seem to recall it being demolished in the mid 70`s, it was a fabulous place to run around free in as a kid with so many nooks & crannies, I seem to recall the Human skeleton (probably real) used in the First aid classes having the name of Algy, and being used by the older boys to frighten the younger, He was missing his feet/legs below the knees & traces of luminous paint were still present from actions in the hobby/model classes on the quietWe were always told by the guys running the place never to venture down into the cellar area, which used to be used for the Chapel as “you might get lost in the cave system) but I was told some years later that the corridors actually led to the padded cells, not sure which was right, possibly bothWe used to venture into the nearby old overgrown orchard behind the Queen Adelaide as they used to have great plum trees in thereThere’s brief but good view of the area, although not the Asylum, in the film Saturday night, Sunday morning, looking down from Kind Edward Park onto Carlton Rd & the factories 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,118 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Welcome OS............Interesting that you mention 'Monty Hind' and 'Daykyne st. old boys,....i recall playing football against one or the other perhaps both in the Notts youth league early 60s,when i played for Coop Pathfinders....also that area near King Edward park bottom of Carlton rd,....my Great Grandmother lived in Kemps Cottages and no one seems to remember them. the Cottages that is,not me Greatgrandma..........lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 also that area near King Edward park bottom of Carlton rd,....my Great Grandmother lived in Kemps Cottages and no one seems to remember them. I don't remember them either, because I'm not that old. But if you don't know exactly where they were...... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,118 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks cliff ton,...............Grandma (great) was my Dads grandma..........i last visited her when i was 15 in 1960......think they were demolished shortly after. edit.......crickey just thought she was born about 1870...........and i knew her........... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Sneintonian 15 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 interesting to see that the word "Lunatic" appears on the something official as the old maps showing just how attached society was, in their believe madness was influenced by the moon. I always assumed it was hearsay / old wives tales etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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