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Nottingham Festival 1970

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13 hours ago, FLY2 said:

I think the oil barges came from Torksey terminal, up Gainsborough way. The big terminal near Colwick was served by the railway only as far as I'm aware.

There was a regular barge service from the Humberside refineries to Colwick some years ago. Until relatively recently, Whitaker’s of Hull used to deliver petrol by barge to Colwick. An old friend of mine who lived on the riverside at Fiskerton once scrounged a ride on one from Hull to his mooring on Fiskerton wharf. He and the crew spent the evening drinking in the nearby Bromley Arms before their morning departure. He said he slept uneasily that night knowing that a barge loaded with thousands of gallons of petrol was moored at the bottom of his garden! :biggrin:

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My mate worked for Esso, in the old days deliveries into Colwick were made by railway and barge they used a pipe from a jetty on the Trent.

 

This all changed when the underground pipe arrived, they could put an inert liquid plug in first then select what fuel was to be sent to the terminal, that way you could send all grades of petrol and of course diesel down the same pipe. The same pipe also automatically recharged the tanks at the TA drill halls eventually.

 

It always seemed strange to me it took so long to arrive as they were doing this in WW2 for operation PLUTO, where a load of refineries were linked together with under ground pipelines which then went under the Solent on to the Isle of Wight and finally under the Channel to the Mulberry harbours.

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It's all moved by rail from the Humber refineries now I believe. I've just been sitting at Newark crossing gates whilst an engine pulling 30 empty fuel tankers came through on a return journey.

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Phil I honestly don't know about the Humber refineries.

 

But the Mainline Oil Pipeline owned by a consortium of ExxonMobile, Chevron , Total and Shell runs from Milford Haven through Birmingham and Kingsbury and into Nottingham Colwick.

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Yes, I don’t think the fuel from Humberside is destined for Colwick. Someone told me that most of it is aviation fuel for Heathrow but I would have thought that their fuel farm was fed by pipeline. I can see the Lincoln Nottingham line from the upstairs windows at home and there’s lots of fuel trains day and night going somewhere. I must investigate further.

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I was watching a TV program about Heathrow and they were on about a fuel farm fed by pipeline so your right there.

 

Quite a fascinating subject really what goes on under our feet. I remember back in the 60s when I started to go up into the High Peak I notice a strange looking building in Doveholes on the Buxton to Chapel road. A low lying brick built building at the front that went into a hill side and really out of place in such a small village turns out that was an under ground fuel store. It turns out they also used the salt caverns in Cheshire.

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27 minutes ago, philmayfield said:

They may be going to Kingsbury in Warwickshire, Britain’s largest inland oil terminal. 

The trains deliver to Colwick, Kingsbury and Jarrow terminals I discover from Googling. There is also a vast underground pipeline network covering the country.

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This is apparently from the 1950s and the barge is named 'Esso Nottingham' - just visible on the bow in an enlarged version.

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When we moved to the Trent Valley in the early 60’s there was still a lot of barge traffic on the Trent with towboats pulling dumb barges. Some used to overnight at the Bromley at Fiskerton. The traffic gradually dwindled over the years and I think the last barges took gravel from Gunthorpe quarry to Hull. There is still barge traffic on the tidal stretch beyond Cromwell lock carrying mainly gravel. Below Keadby bridge, which no longer lifts, there are seagoing boats delivering to the riverside wharves. These usually come from Northern Europe. Where the Trent runs into the Humber at Trent Falls the shifting sands necessitate regular updating of the navigation charts and pilotage is required for larger boats. The Humber lifeboat is the only one in the country that has a full time crew. It’s pretty bleak out on those waters and a long way from anywhere interesting. A road trip along either side of the Trent from Gainsborough to the Humber area is worth exploring.

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I think rail deliveries to Colwick Terminal ceased in the 90's. 

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By a strange coincidence, I had to collect a train driver today, He works out of Immingham, and was taking a load of coal to Toton depot, to be delivered to Radcliffe power station tomorrow.

His train was stopped, near to market rasen, due to another train having a brake problem.

The other train was delivering fuel to Kingsbury.

So a nice trip from Toton, to Wickenby and Immingham, in the sunshine.

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At one time the Humber lifeboat crew and families all lived together on the tip of Spurn point with their Severn class permanently afloat.

 

I think the crews still work from there but the families have had to move do to coastal erosion.

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The Whitakers petrol barges finished around 1995 give or take a couple years Phil.

Your friend should have had no reason to worry for his safety the crew were very 

safety conscious, they had jam jars full of water to drop their fag ends in.

 

   

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I am completely confused by this thread.

I made a comment yesterday attempting to point out that the title is "Nottingham-Festival-1970". This comment seems to have been deleted and the thread continues in its merry way on a totally different subject - oil barges on the Trent (via jumping and or diving from various Trent bridges).

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Welcome to the wonderful world of Nottstalgia...      ;)

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That's what makes this Forum so interesting. Without the meanderings who would have thought to start a thread about oil barges on the Trent? Something about which I knew very little and now pleased to have this info stored in my cornucopia of Nottingham facts!

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I’ve just discovered a very interesting website for those who want more info. about the carriage of goods along the Trent. trentbasin.co.uk

It’s quite comprehensive and I’ve not studied it yet but it will be of interest to the many historians who inhabit this site!

 

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On 4/20/2018 at 2:21 PM, jonab said:

I am completely confused by this thread.

I made a comment yesterday attempting to point out that the title is "Nottingham-Festival-1970". This comment seems to have been deleted and the thread continues in its merry way on a totally different subject - oil barges on the Trent (via jumping and or diving from various Trent bridges).

Don't worry yersen to much, this is NS at it's very best !

This was the old "Carsey" on the Embankment, was open in 1970.

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