Chulla's Quantum Conjecture

[Chulla 4,946]

In living memory there was a time when we did not know of what we call quantum mechanics - things smaller than the atom. Who is to say, therefore, that we will not eventually see things more tiny than the sub-atomic particles we now know. Here's something profound for the deep-thinking Nottstalgians to go to sleep on.

Imagine you have an incredibly powerful microscope, more powerful than today's electron microscopes. Imagine that you pointed it at a dark corner of your room, say, where the skirting-boards meet. You would see dust and dirt and much more than natural sight would reveal.

You look closer and see that the dust and dirt is composed of millions of atoms, and billions of other smaller particles. Look closer still and those particles are inhabited by millions of living beings. In your imagination you would compare this with the universe that you live in - planets and the Milky Way.

Imagine that in fact it is a universe, but only a miniscule part of a much greater universe; the one you live in. Imagine that just as you are a giant in comparison to the living beings visible through the microscope, our universe is just as miniscule to someone else, someone so large that to him our universe is the dust in the corner of his room.

Imagine once more, time is changed in scale, just as sizes are, and his few minutes in time are millions of years of ours. Frightening, isn't it, especially when he reaches for the vacuum cleaner, and we cease to exist.

Sleep tight.

[carni 10,094]

Chulla,

Those kind of thoughts are never far from mind. But, I try to let the Butterfly and Rainbow thoughts push it to one side They don't help me sleep, but make the laying awake hours easier.

Very Interesting Miduck.

[siddha 825]

Didn't sleep last night ! Worried away at the consequences of any further house cleaning.........

Thanks Chulla

[tomlinson 879]

'Big Fleas have little fleas

Upon their backs to bite 'em,

And little fleas have lesser fleas,

And so on, ad infinitum'.

[PeverilPeril 3,279]

#1 I remember as a young SF enthusiast reading a story about a man sitting in a forest and musing about a fork in a nearby tree. Just as you clearly mused, he imagined these tiny universes that only lasted for a few minutes So even without QM being a term it was certainly thought about even 60 years ago.

Just about anything is possible and I wonder what the world will be like when my great grandchildren have their own great grandchildren? Molecular and bio computers are already being developed. Then there will be sub molecular...then bio integration....

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[TBI 2,351]

A fascinating subject and all to do with Einsteins relativity theories and the space-time continuum. As I learned about in Back to the Future.

[Cliff Ton 10,464]

So now we know what chulla does in answer to the thread about lying awake in the early hours. http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13302

When Smiffy49 asked that question, I'll bet he didn't expect to get into quantum physics.

[DAVIDW 1,683]

Must be a week for this sort of thing .

On another message board I read , one chap randomly told us about other galaxies expanding away from us at twice the speed of light . Except that it's not theoretically possible to go faster than the speed of light.....well I think thats what he was saying !

Way above my head ! Well I suppose most galaxies are !!

http://boards.fool.co.uk/faster-than-light-galaxies-13130888.aspx?sort=whole#13130888

[colly0410 1,181]

They've discovered that distant galaxies are moving away from us at an accelerating rate & they can't explain why. Maybe someone in a bigger dimension has put the hoover on blow instead of suck..

[NewBasfordlad 3,599]

First came across something very similar a lot of years ago. It was a story in one of my illustrated comics. The first part was about a universe inhabited by humans who where sending rockets into outer space. There were wars on several different planets, famine and strife on others all in all pretty much like we are.

Only on the last page was it revealed that this was all happening in a glass tank, sited on a laboratory bench, being watched over through microscopes by huge human scientists. The finale was that they decided to end the experiment, empty the glass tank and turn out the lights.

[mick2me 3,033]

You'l be saying there are flying saucers next!

[NewBasfordlad 3,599]

Well I don't think that would be such a huge surprize. If we work on the odds of winning the lottery and someone does win. Then look at how many planets there are in the universe the odds are that somewhere out there, there will be other life.

[catfan 14,793]

And the moon is made of cheese !

[NewBasfordlad 3,599]

I am sorry but I think you have gone to far there, I just can't imagine a man living in a cheese house.

[Cliff Ton 10,464]

You look closer and see that the dust and dirt is composed of millions of atoms, and billions of other smaller particles. Look closer still and those particles are inhabited by millions of living beings.

So there could be an infinitesimal number of mini-Nottsalgias out there - or going in the opposite direction a universe full of mega-Nottstalgias. With posts being written by microscopic equivalents of ourselves.

[carni 10,094]

I was just thinking to my self that TYAFANS would probably enjoy this Topic.

I just looked on the Calender and would you Adam and Eve it. It is his Birthday

So I have started a Happy Birthday for him! Where ever he is?

[Chulla 4,946]

#15 Cliff Ton. There could well be posts written by those miniscule Nottstalgians, if they were literate. If they went to Arnold County High School then I doubt it. But if they went to the William Crane Academy For Young Gentlemen then they would be. Laetitia Servire - ra!, ra!, ra!.

[PeverilPeril 3,279]

#15 Cliff Ton. There could well be posts written by those miniscule Nottstalgians, if they were literate. If they went to Arnold County High School then I doubt it. But if they went to the William Crane Academy For Young Gentlemen then they would be. Laetitia Servire - ra!, ra!, ra!.

However - if they had gone to Berridge they would have given you a kicking for showing off LOL

[colly0410 1,181]

Hmm, if there's lifeforms living on these ultra tiny particles I wonder what effect the strong & weak nuclear forces would have on them. Perhaps they act like gravity & electromagnetic forces do on us & they don't know about gravity & electromagnetism as it doesn't seem to affect them at their small scale. There could be even smaller particles & forces & scalar fields that we don't know about but the tiny bods do. I suppose they could live on a Higgs Boson & that's why it took so long to discover. Guess what I'll be dreaming about tonight..

[Ayupmeducks 1,730]

My flux capacitor doesnt flux anymore..

[colly0410 1,181]

Re # 20

It's that lead free solder John, that'll be the problem..

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I dont want to read about a tom I am reading about a janet and john.

[colly0410 1,181]

I'd forgotten I'd commented on this thread Chulla. I so love discussing these sort of things..

[mercurydancer 1,104]

Not only the very small and cosmic scale, modern physics also states that there is a possibility for infinite numbers of universes.

Theoretically there is a universe where I could now be lying in bed next to Cameron Diaz, eating mushy peas with mint sauce and drinking shippoes. The closest I have got is lying in bed eating mushy peas!

[Compo 10,328]

#4: I was thinking along those lines yesterday as I was picking tiny mites off a beetle. Poor little bugg*r was covered in the miniscule parasites.