carni 10,094 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Well, Syrup of Figs flavoured Icecream. Sounds good to me, you don't put me off that easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Damn!! Hoist by my own petard. Yum indestructible, carni! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Chalmers poo poo's our theory Chulla.. though his papers on listening to music are fascinating. But does our brain shuffle thought and place it in a sequence of need? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted July 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Ian. Not familiar with Chalmers theory. What does he say? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 I awoke too early, and couldn't get back to sleep, so I took two paracetamol and read this topic, and it's had the desired effec.......... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Only joking........... But a bit heavy going! LOL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,268 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Chulla - did you watch Horizon BBC2 on Wed? About Multiverses. Which Universe are we in? Several different theories expounded and fascinating. Ruined my sleep pattern again 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,594 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I watched that programme on Multiverses - didn't really understand it all but found it fascinating. Wonder if the Margie in another 'universe' enjoyed it too! And the other Margie, and another, and another........ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I taped it Margie,will watch tomorrow; I will let you know..or another Ian. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 #42, Syrup of Figs ice cream and now Quince ice cream. But still no trigger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,594 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 # 59. But how will I know which Ian it is? And does it matter which one anyway? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parmitage 127 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 DAH........ My brain don'tarf hurt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 You Will know Margie.. Only one of me!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I watched the multiverse program & if you think about it, it's got to be sort of true. Space can never end, it must just go on for ever, there will always be more space when you think you've come to the end of space, so there must be other universes out there. It's just that our brains have problems dealing with infinity as they never evolved to do so. The human brain of ancient times was preoccupied with running away from sabre toothed tigers & not thinking about infinity. Those who did think about infinity were the the ones that ended up as tiger din-dins.. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,268 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 For me the most exciting item in the programme was the possibility of quantum computers; using sub atomic 'bits'. These computers would change everything, being able to do billions of calculations simultaneously. That would be the true 'quantum leap'. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Was'nt there an Australian man using similar calculations to pick lottery numbers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Just watched the programme on iPlayer - wasn't convinced about anything it had to say. To every idea, every pronouncement, every expert opinion, if you asked them 'do you know that for a fact', the answer would be 'no'. If we were talking about something that could well be true based on our current scientific knowledge, then that is one thing. However, the programme was about an idea that had more holes in it than a lace curtain. Nothing wrong in having a bit of fun in the game (not science) of prediction. I am not convinced about the so-called Big Bang theory - they only thought of it because they couldn't think of another way in which the universe was formed. Now it has almost become an established fact, when there is nothing to substantiate the claim. If there was a big bang, presumably there was an enormous entity there prior to the bang. Where did that come from. It's the old 'If god made us, who made him' question. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 # 65 PeverilPeril. Yes that bit fascinated me as well, especially the speculation that the the quantum bits used parallel universes to do their calculations. I lay awake at night thinking about things like this then wonder why I can't get to sleep. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,268 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 #67 Chulla - doubt if anyone is convinced about any of it, but these theories have to be investigated...AND it is fascinating. The lady mathematician who stood on the Giant Causeway seemed to be the most reasoned of all the profs. According to her and others, evidence is being discovered that will prove the existence of the Multiverse. I liked the theory that the Universe is a finite quantity of energy and particles that can be explained mathematically. Trouble is that it would take conventional computers the age of the Universe itself to to do the necessary calculations. I lie awake too Colly0410 - lost a lot of sleep over the years pondering infinity. Kurt Vonegut jr started me off with his SF stories in the 50's based on // universes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Infinity? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomlinson 879 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Seems to be going on towards a religion - based on faith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 They do admit that the evidence is a bit flaky, but the mathematics seem to be leading towards parallel universes & extra dimensions. Mathematics in science seems to have a habit of predicting things before they're discovered or proved: E.G. Higgs boson, W & Z bosons, gluons, quarks, gravitational lensing, frame draging; all these were predicted by maths before they were discovered. Admittedly some thing were discovered that were not predicted by maths: E.G. Dark Matter, Dark Energy, Expanding universe acceleration, Gravity & others I can't remember at moment. Wish I was clever enough to have gone into this sort of thing, but we didn't do much about theoretical physics at Trent Bridge, we were trained mainly for factory & manual work, not accademia.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,268 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 If our Universe is expanding then everything is getting further apart. So if there are Multiverses then they may be expanding too. Could be an overlap with adjacent Universes that don't conform to our material structure. All that unexplained energy and matter may belong to other Universes that have inpinged on ours. Likewise, our Universe may have seeped into other Universes. We just can't see it or detect it yet because we are still quite primitive. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,594 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 I've always wondered about the expanding universe...... If everything is moving away from everything else, does that means there must be an increasing area of empty space where the 'big bang' was? I have had it explained like the surface of an expanding balloon, where points marked on it get further apart, but there is still the space inside the balloon isn't there? I also have read that space is curved but that doesn't help me get my head around it... Any ideas? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,118 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 As Delboy would say Margie,........'.its a bark init'...........and.................'i can't be doing wiv it'...... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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