The 60's, were they so wonderful?


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Hi Firbeck,

You are entitled to your opinion even if it is a little divisive.

You have obviously had a bad experience with Mods that has left its scar.

All l can say from my own experience l was a Mod and proud of it. I had a Vespa 180SS full of chrome, went to Skegness on Bank Holidays, liked smart clothes, brought up on three council estates Bilborough, Clifton and Bestwood Park, went to a rough school, went to College, got a degree, run my own business, married with two beautiful daughters and a wife who l adore, I have never been arrested or charged for violence, steeling or drugs, I could go on. And the lads who shared my interest in scooters, fashions, clubbing and music l don't remember any of them being slimey obnoxious gits.

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Can bring a slightly different perspective to this. I was a teenager in the 60s left school in 62 Royal Navy in 63 became a cold war warrior in 64 ( literally) serving in a ship on anti submarine pat

Well those of us who were teenagers in the 60's would all agree that they were great times. Even though we had school and homework to deal with we still managed to get out a lot socialising at the ma

As teenagers of the 60s, we were brought up by parents who had to live THEIR young lives through the war. When the war had finished there was a time of austerity while things were brought up to standa

as i was alwaysa rocker most rockers iknow then and no were clean and although yes some times they were covered in oil from tinkering with bikes,mant i know now have very sucessful businesses and have very good lives. i know a lot of people mixed up the geniun rocker with the scruffy hells angles just because they rode bikes and sometimes frequented the same places most of us rockers would not be seen with hells angels.

but yes the answer to the original question is a big yes the time the people the places and the freedom we as teenagers had and of course the music and i know that most mods think they had the best musiic what most of them forget is both mods and rockers danced to a lot of the same music only the dancing was different

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as i was alwaysa rocker most rockers iknow then and no were clean and although yes some times they were covered in oil from tinkering with bikes,mant i know now have very sucessful businesses and have very good lives. i know a lot of people mixed up the geniun rocker with the scruffy hells angles just because they rode bikes and sometimes frequented the same places most of us rockers would not be seen with hells angels.

but yes the answer to the original question is a big yes the time the people the places and the freedom we as teenagers had and of course the music and i know that most mods think they had the best musiic what most of them forget is both mods and rockers danced to a lot of the same music only the dancing was different

A girl I used go out with had a brother who was a rocker and he gave me a lift once on his 750 Triumph Boni Vill (not sure about the spelling) frightened me to death when he banked over the bike, you couldn't do that on scooters. Great Guy, didn't smell, didn't beat up Mods. He became a school teacher.

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The short answer is yes, they were wonderful.

For all the troubles that there may have been in the world, times were good.

I was there. I remember with absolute clarity.

The music scene was great, bills were low, most people were employed.

It was a time when the shackles had been thrown off from the austerity of the post war years.

There is a really good book by Ian MacDonald called 'Revolution In The Head' which is actually about Beatles songs, but also has a lot of social comment about those years. In it he describes the mood in the 60's as one of 'sunny optimism'.

Things were happening and the future looked bright.

Compare that to today when we've just entered the New Year and there doesn't seem to be much to look forward to.

The mood is one of trepidation.

Like.......what the hell is going to happen this year ?

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Well the mods I went around with did not fit this silly generalization at all ! Yes there were the odd nutters, but having an older brother in the other camp (rockers) they had their fair share too !

Some of my brothers mates were great guys, some not so. Remember the St Anne's race riots ? no Mods there methinks, but quite a few bikies !

And as for invading Southern coastal towns for nothing more than a brawl, well more poppycock. We made endless trips to skeggy, and never once got into bother, never took drugs, drank little but golly we had fun.

The 60's for me was just the best time ever, I had the choice of two jobs, both apprenticeships, worked part time from 14, hitched round Europe at 16, found out what the opposite sex really were for.

Good times indeed, but then again we all see life differently at times.

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A lot of my mates dressed as mods and rode about on Vespas and Lambrettas wearing Parkas. Likewise, I had many friends who were also rockers (which was probably my leaning). We all grew up together. For our circle of friends, it was just a passing phase. Nothing else. When it came to girls, as long as they were good looking, it didn't matter if they were mods or rockers.

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Thinking it over, there is no doubt times were good. We were recovering from a devastating war and period of austerity. Consumer goods TVs, cars, etc. were becoming available. Plenty of jobs. The idealism of youth. What went wrong?

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Well i was a rocker ,but had mates who were mods all nice lads ,no one got shot, alot of banter and at worse a punch on the nose , as someone said lots of jobs ,pretty girls ,good beer, great music ,how lucky we were!! imissyou

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I think for most of us, if we were brought up to respect others and their ways (and most of us were), we just accepted them.

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well hippo girl as we know its great growing old disgracefully int it by the way what was your new grandchild a boy or a girl

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Can bring a slightly different perspective to this. I was a teenager in the 60s left school in 62 Royal Navy in 63 became a cold war warrior in 64 ( literally) serving in a ship on anti submarine patrols in the Greenland/Iceland gap, Submarine Service in 65 long arduous patrols in Northern waters usually 6 to 8 weeks duration usually when we came back off a patrol we wouldn't know what the latest hit records were. We came back off one patrol in 66 to find that England were in the world cup final the next day. For me and lots like me the cold war was very real. However for me the sixties were great and Nottingham was the best place to enjoy it (when I could get home on leave) I was never really a part of the fashion scene as wearing of uniform was compulsory and the requisite short haircut was a dead giveaway. I have no regrets about the life I chose and yes I did miss being a teenager but I still think that being a part of that era was fantastic experience hearing the music of those days brings it all back. Happy Times. Some years later my daughter was doing a project at school on the 60s she asked me what I was doing during the sexual Revolution I told her that I was captured at a very early stage and spent the rest of it washing up.

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Well done Deeps, I'm proud of you. I never fancied the services as I have a severe problem with discipline, and responding to orders. LOL

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Deeps' story of being in submarines and being away from civilisation for so long that things happened in his absence, reminded me of our first holiday abroad. It was in Paris in June 1967. Went there at that time so I could go the Paris Air Show. Whilst in Paris we never saw the TV and never read a newspaper - neither of us knew the lingo. When we got back to Nottingham a week later, we found out that the Seven-Days War had broken out, been fought and ended. First we knew about it.

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Everything was so new, fresh and innocent. ...... Just like me !!! LOL

Me too, but I soon changed.......great days......

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I grew up in the late 40's/50's, they were reasonable happy times for me - I left school in 1961 at 16 - My first job was £3.10s a week in a Factory Office, I then later moved to work in the city for a Solicitor's Office, got loads more money, I remember all the great dance halls, pubs, clubs, cinemas, parties, trips to Skeggy, London, Blackpool, Yarmouth etc........ not forgetting all the cheap trendy clothes from C&A and places, it was definietely the swingin sixties for me.............

We had the time of our lives and I would not have missed living in that era for all the world.........I married in 1970 and then entered the next phase of my life..........

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