Robinsons rose nursery westdale lane carlton.


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Tom Jnr and his sister Mary I think her name was used to drink with some of my mates and I in the early 60's, but I believe Tom overdid it a bit and once ended up in hospital.

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There's a house on Hardys Drive, Gedling called Wheatcrofts its surposed to be where Harry's mum lived. Wheatcrofts started in Gedling as Wheatcroft brothers then the brothers had an argument and split, Timmermans were related by marriage to the Wheatcrofts and you can always get the Harry Wheatcroft rose from them, I always have a 'Harry' in the garden, you can also get a Dorothy Wheatcroft rose.

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Ah Memories, The house with the" Red Door" is my old Home. There is an alley between ours and what we called " The Big House". The first small bedroom windowin the alley is the room shared by my sister, two brothers and little me. There was a third bedroom, but you had to walk through one bedroom to get to it.To small, so us kids all shared a room. Hardys Drive looks a lot different these days. No Doctors house and tall trees with the Rookery.

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In the 30s there are a couple of adverts in the NEP by a Mrs.A.E.Wheatcroft of Hardys Drive for domestic staff . No house number given .

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I am a member of the Robinson family through my mother who was one of the daughters of the founder Thomas Robinson. He lived at Lyon House  411 Westdale Lane  which was built by his father in law (Mr Lee) who apart from being a builder was also an amateur rose grower and my grandfather's business partner when they started the original nursery on Westdale Lane near the top of the hill into Gedling. Thomas had 6 children but a boy died young under the wheels of a cart leaving 2 boys Tom and Eric and 3 girls May Lily and Joan, all 5 of whom worked in the business at one time or another as the production and sale of their produce was countrywide and also european to some extent. My mother recalled often going south with her father to sell to Notcutts among other buyers. Apart from the nursery where they specialised in miniature roses they also had a farm in Gotham where they grew a wide variety of flowers for the wholesale market and to sell in their own shops. Old man Robinson liked a drink and died relatively young because of it and the 2 sons continued with the nursery and shops for some years before eventually closing the shops and then selling the nursery land to developers. The eldest son Tom had built a bungalow on nursery land and had 2 children Tom and June. His brother Eric was given a piece of land next door to Lyon House and built 409 living next door to his parents although 409 has since been demolished and redeveloped and Lyon House now sits on a much smaller plot then originally.When the nursery was sold Tom the eldest son moved to Thurgarton and his son Young Tom built  a bungalow just off the nursery and next door to his sister June. Young Tom as we called him ran the Robinson's wholesale business at the Central Market (under the name of something like Growers Produce i seem to remember) and he carried on for a while before moving to Jersey .Thomas Robinson the founder was a leading rose grower in England winning all sorts of prizes in his pomp and i have a copy of the obituary written at the time which talks about him in very glowing terms but i'm afraid the business didn't last beyond the second generation. One of my Robinson cousins remarked to me some years ago that we must have had the only business that lost money when the garden centre boom started. Oh well.!!

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2 hours ago, doubleyou said:

I am a member of the Robinson family through my mother who was one of the daughters of the founder Thomas Robinson. He lived at Lyon House  411 Westdale Lane  which was built by his father in law (Mr Lee) 

 

It looks like it has survived in unspoilt condition :  https://goo.gl/maps/EwjCxpnSdWS2   (providing there hasn't been any renumbering since).

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On 27/01/2015 at 11:37 PM, banjo48 said:

I lived in the Nurseries estate off Westdale lane in the late 70's/80's, it was in the main as said earlier, Southview road, all the smaller roads were named after flowers, I lived on Violet road, but there is Lavender and Veronica too. Think this was the original Robinsons nursery mentioned, I remember the greenhouses and wooden structures from my days of cycling up and down the lane to and from school in the early 60's.

The final part was developed later and is now Glendale road.

There was another nursery further up Westdale (mentioned in an earlier thread) owned by the Priestley's, Richard Priestley went to Gedling school a couple of years younger than me. Think he had a younger sister too. There is now a retirement style accommodation built on that one.

Wheatcrofts may have started in Gedling but moved to the Melton road / Landmere lane where they built a large house and had extensive rose gardens and buildings.

Hi, you are quite right about the Priestley's. My brother Phil Lovejoy and Richard Priestley were best mates back in the day!  You mentioned Lovejoy's Seed Store, Radford Road in another post back in 2012 think you may have been friends with my other brother - Richard Lovejoy? Going back to the original post my first boyfriend worked at Robinson's Nursery on Westdale Lane back in 1976 (the long hot Summer) his name was Steven Holland, 

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On 11/4/2017 at 7:25 PM, Cliff Ton said:

 

It looks like it has survived in unspoilt condition :  https://goo.gl/maps/EwjCxpnSdWS2   (providing there hasn't been any renumbering since).

Apart from originally sitting in a much larger plot and having a hedge at the front the house looks as it did when i lived in it as a child. As a kid it had a wide drive which went shortly to a garage on the left and further on in between the house and the back of the garage where there was a part we called "The Office". Originally the nursery down the lane was run from here and the daughters eventually did most of the paperwork with the help of a manager called "Nutty". Later they moved the admin to the nursery itself and Nutty moved with it.

The house itself had a full size billiard table in the attic with no roof supports to impede the gentleman players elbow extension. Very convenient for the players but unfortunately nature bit back when the coal board came round to check for subsidence. Yes the colliery at Gedling had caused some problems but a bigger concern was the roof, which the surveyor told my mum could slide off the house at any time as it was effectively all of a piece and ready to go flying at the first sign of a big wind. There was an immediate ban on entry to the danger area and my poor mum lived in fear from that day on. We of course waited until she went out for any reason and immediately legged it upstairs and into what was now the most exciting part of the house to play snooker. The only telltale of our defiance being the odd miscue and the resultant hole in the window in the end wall from the flying ball. Fancy putting a window at just the height of a flying snooker ball and even worse, it was the end over the drive where you couldn't miss the broken glass and window. And there were ghosts as well...as in any old house. Any creaks told their own tale and we sometimes cowered in bed. The bathroom was past the wooden ladder to the billiard room and the passage was dark so many a time my brother and i peed out of the window rather than face the challenge of the Passage Of Doom. Great days but a scary house for a kid.

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On 1/27/2015 at 11:37 PM, banjo48 said:

I lived in the Nurseries estate off Westdale lane in the late 70's/80's, it was in the main as said earlier, Southview road, all the smaller roads were named after flowers, I lived on Violet road, but there is Lavender and Veronica too.  Think this was the original Robinsons nursery mentioned, I remember the greenhouses and wooden structures from my days of cycling up and down the lane to and from school in the early 60's.

The final part was developed later and is now Glendale road. There was another nursery further up Westdale (mentioned in an earlier thread) owned by the Priestley's, Richard Priestley went to Gedling school a couple of years younger than me. Think he had a younger sister too.There is now a retirement style accommodation built on that one.

Wheatcrofts may have started in Gedling but moved to the Melton road / Landmere lane where they built a large house and had extensive rose gardens and buildings.

Its now many years since this post but here goes with a reply , just in case someone is still looking !! I too lived on ' The Nurseries estate' and also on Violet Road late 1970's to mid 1980's(well my folks did - i moved back into Nottm about 1981 ) Our house on Violet overlooked Lavender.Yes, there were tall conifers at the top of Southview Rd at jnc with Westdale Lane.My youngest brother went to Haddon Close school which is close to where Glendale is now.There were also many 'areas close by , like Lascelles Aveune way which did appear to still have greenhouses dotted about.We did think also that  the Nurseries was to do with the Robinsons .

 

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