pogra8 0 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Can anyone remember this nursery? Photos etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yes I lived on Welbeck Avenue 1953-67. It will be on 1" O.S. map 112 (SK 6042NE) I think the owners house number was 205 Westdale Lane East I don't know of any photos though I thought it was Gedling or is Westdale Lane the boundary between Carlton & Gedling? Welbeck Avenue was certainly Gedling (post code NG4 NFR) Just been looking & streets on the other side of Westdale Lane(from Welbeck Avenue) are listed as Carlton. But is it Gedling Borough? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,626 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Earliest mention in the news archives is 1915 . It would appear a Thomas Robinson owned it , certainly in the 20s There are adverts for houses for sale opposite the nursery . One says a house is on Elm Bank opposite the nursery and another advert says Elmhurst Ave opposite . At one point in the 30s they were advertising as Robinson, "Porchester Nurseries" Westdale Lane . Still advertising as Thomas Robinson when looking for staff in 1950 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 My latest map of that area is 1967 & it's still there then So it must have been built on after I left the area Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,626 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I don't quite get it , the only nursery I can see on a 1938 map is facing Freda and Lascelles Ave. If thats it I have a vague recollection of something like a nursey surrounded by large conifers on the flat , at the top of the steep part of Westdale Lane. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I have two maps of different dates 1959 & 1967 Ordnance Survey SK 6042 NE 50.688 inches to the mile. There are a large number of large greenhouses on the maps opposite Freda Avenue/Lascelles Avenue/Welbeck Avenue/Thoresby Avenue. Part of the land was developed just prior to August 1959. But the green houses must have gone at a later date There is(was) a house straight opposite Welbeck Avenue which is/was 205 Westdale Lane. The part of the nursery that was built on contained South View Road which runs from Westdale Lane to Cavendish Road Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,626 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 This is an obituary and photo of the founder Thomas Robinson who died in 1934 https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7400/16381512581_6fdc9169e8_o.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 There is a Thomas Robinson Nurseryman Westdale Lane (tele 64506) listed in Kelly's directory 1941 could be his son? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,626 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yes Bubblewrap thats the son Thomas , born 1905 . Here's the family in the 1911 Census at Lyon House, Westdale Lane . Thomas senior was born your way in Barrow on Soar . https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7359/16383500105_84d3e833c6_b.jpg Weird but for 5 years must have gone by that nursery twice a day on my way , to and from school and never took any notice of it ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,009 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Not really my area so tell me to shut up if I'm talking rubbish. This is from the 1930s and there's obviously a Nursery marked; it's opposite the end of Marshall Hill Drive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 when i moved up to cavendish rd in 1963 the nurerywas just closing down and they were giving away lots of the rose bushes dad went across the road and came back with a dozen it was pot luck what you were given ours were all different colors they made a great display the next year . once the area was cleared they started to build what was then the new estate that ran along the back of the cavo pub and the bungaloes on cavendih rd to opposit the gates of the allotments just above buxton ave shopsthese were finished by about 1967 this nursry only grew roses and i thought it belonged to weat grofts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I thought Wheatcroft's was somewhere like Bramcote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,626 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Cliff Ton never knew there was a nursery there . That was where Westdale Lane junior school and the wooden huts infants was , in our day . If you read my cutting it says the Robinsons lived at Lyon House , Westdale Lane in 1934 , also at that address in the 1911 Census . Google Lyon House , Westdale Lane today and it comes up, way up the road , in between Moore Rd and Kent Rd , an old victorian house number 411 , you can just about make out the house name in the glass above the front door on streetview . Bit confusing unless the family moved there after selling the nursery in the 60s and renamed this house ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor S 2,002 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Bubblewrap, in the late 50s, early 60s, Wheatcroft Roses was at Radcliffe on Trent - next to Trevart Kennels which you would now know as the RSPCA. From what I have been told, Wheatcroft then moved his business to somewhere near Gamston? Remember the man and his rose gardens at ROT very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm sure Wheatcroft's had a place somewhere in or around Nottingham & not as far out as Ratcliffe-on-Trent Memories fade I have not lived in Nottingham since Dec 1967. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 #12 It was at the bottom of my street & I don't remember that much either. Good thing is I have the maps & the Ordnance Survey are always right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wheatcrofts is on the big island at the end of Melton Road in Edwalton. It's been there as long as I can remember. It's not owned by the Wheatcroft family any more. When Harry Wheatcroft first started his nursery business in the twenties, it was in Gedling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor S 2,002 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 You could well be right, Bubblewrap. I only know of the one I lived next to for several years, took the occasional roses for my Mum, played soccer with the gardeners and admired Wheatcrofts' massive mutton chops when he came across to chat to my Dad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,626 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wheatcrofts did grow roses in Gedling in the 20s and 30s (not sure where ) and then were well known in Ruddington too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banjo48 925 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I lived in the Nurseries estate off Westdale lane in the late 70's/80's, it was in the main as said earlier, Southview road, all the smaller roads were named after flowers, I lived on Violet road, but there is Lavender and Veronica too. Think this was the original Robinsons nursery mentioned, I remember the greenhouses and wooden structures from my days of cycling up and down the lane to and from school in the early 60's. The final part was developed later and is now Glendale road. There was another nursery further up Westdale (mentioned in an earlier thread) owned by the Priestley's, Richard Priestley went to Gedling school a couple of years younger than me. Think he had a younger sister too. There is now a retirement style accommodation built on that one. Wheatcrofts may have started in Gedling but moved to the Melton road / Landmere lane where they built a large house and had extensive rose gardens and buildings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 My father got his rose trees/bushes(free to a good home ) off of Robinson's when the first part was devoloped/built on according to my mother in the late 1950s I spoke to mother(85) over the phone last night & she remembers dad bringing the roses home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 If this is correct they may have sold more than roses. http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;NTGM020301&pos=1&action=zoom&id=114323 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 There was a further nursery on Rufford Avenue at the top of Thorsby Avenue owned by Vann's Their daughter Shirley was in the same class as me at Gedling Secondary Modern. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 5,518 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Robinsons also had florist shops under the name of Thos. Robinson Florists. I think one was on the WB side of Trent Bridge. I believe Tom Robinson jnr. lived in Thurgarton. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pogra8 0 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Robinsons banjo 48 is spot on location. Anyone work there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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