Tim in the North East 200 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Does anyone know the current exact location of the scene shown on this postcard - and in particular the address of the cottage in the picture? The postcard says it is of Kneeton Hill, Hoveringham. Hoveringham is on the north bank of the Trent and flat - whereas Kneeton is on the south bank at the top of the escarpment opposite Hoveringham and above where the old ferry used to cross. Is this picture of the lane that ran from the river to Kneeton? Any help in pinpointing this location would be much appreciated. Regards Tim 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 One old newspaper reference ......" in the Trent at Hoveringham Weir below Kneeton Hills" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poohbear 1,360 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 My guess...and I mean guess. With Hoveringham being mentioned I would imagine the cottage is near the river on the Kneeton side.On a narrow road leading from the ford and the ferry,on a hill,surrounded by woods. The only cottage marked in the late 1800s (the ladies clothes) that fits with the above is the one marked here... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I reckon poohbear has got it. On later maps, that cottage has disappeared by the 1920s. Today, you can see the empty space where it was. That's Kneeton village, and the Trent is the dark thing on the right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mercurydancer 1,104 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I do have this feeling that I could take a needle, and throw it into anywhere in Nottinghamshire, and photograph the needle, Cliff Ton and many others of equal expertise would identify the needle, the field, the photographs of the field in each decade going back at least 100 years, tell me who owned the field and report me to the police for littering. I have a total respect for this degree of insight and expertise. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim in the North East 200 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (Many thanks - I did have an idea to send the card to the present owners of the house - but it would appear I am about 90 years too late! Tim 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poohbear 1,360 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Voila! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MelissaJKelly 2,120 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 What amazing photos! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 mercurydancer (#5), I agree with you 100% and think we are lucky to have so many knowledgeable members on Nottstalgia. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StephenFord 866 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well - it's a challenge isn't it? And with the local angle, much more absorbing than Sudoku ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So there's a Downton connection . Back in the 1890s Lord Carnarvon owned Highclere (location of the TV series) and the manor at Kneeton. Wonder why the cottage was called "Scout Cottage" ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banjo48 928 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 My guess...and I mean guess. With Hoveringham being mentioned I would imagine the cottage is near the river on the Kneeton side.On a narrow road leading from the ford and the ferry,on a hill,surrounded by woods. The only cottage marked in the late 1800s (the ladies clothes) that fits with the above is the one marked here... One of my favorite fishing spots just at the back of that cottage position, where the ford used to be across to the island, some huge chub was caught there on a lovely summers evening after work. The water was only maybe 2ft deep in places but boy there was some good fish there. We used to trot a small float down with the current with a nice worm or wasp grub and when they hit it was like an express train as they tried to get to the deeper channnels to escape. More memories ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poohbear 1,360 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hard to know if the word scout actually refers to boy scouts...but the picture of the cottage actually shows a garden full of figures. Some of whom could be wearing scouts uniform complete with hat and bandana. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Oh yes..... hadn't noticed all those scouts lurking in the shrubbery Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 "A shrubbery", you say? Perhaps they are... The Knights who say "Ni"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQfGd3G6dg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 370 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Nice picture of the ford and Kneeton Village here http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/kneeton-ford-nottingham-on-the-trent-81031 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I've been up and down that path to the river quite a few times in the past. I've lived about four miles away for over thirty years. I was fairly certain of the cottage's position when I first saw the postcard and guessed it must have been long gone. This afternoon I wendled by again and took a few photos, you can see where the space is still fairly open, it's the only place it would have been, near to the bottom. The path is highly banked on both sides for the rest of the way up to the top. And very steep too! The only bit I could see that might be part of the cottage was the step by the side of the path, which would have been about where the gate entrance would have been. It's just by the white object, my bike helmet. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 It looks like one of those victorian fairy photos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poohbear 1,360 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 It looks like one of those victorian fairy photos. Very similar...those fairy pictures that fooled Conan Doyle were badly exposed too It's an interesting area...and there's no doubt that the trackways and fords in that area were well used by the Romans many years before, to and from their fort and settlement on the Fosse. I see in TBIs photos that the old wood is long gone. There were some mature pines in the wood at the time of that cottage photo and the old map.Nothing more than about 50 years old now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trickymicky 57 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 #13 THE SCOUT CAMP . The Scout Camp, July 25-August 2, was spent at Lady Carnarvon's Scout Cottage, Kneeton, Nottingham, situated in a pleasant spot near the Trent. Two officers and twentytwo scouts formed a fairly satisfactory number to attend camp, and the week was, on the whole, a great success. That was 1916 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
siddha 822 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 What brilliant responses to such a simple question! This forum has huge breadth and depth of knowledge through the generosity of its members. Fab! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 #13 THE SCOUT CAMP . The Scout Camp, July 25-August 2, was spent at Lady CarnarI didvon's Scout Cottage, Kneeton, Nottingham, situated in a pleasant spot near the Trent. Two officers and twentytwo scouts formed a fairly satisfactory number to attend camp, and the week was, on the whole, a great success. That was 1916 So it's latter use as a sort of scout base points to the name Scout Cottage. I wonder where the Lady Carnarvon bit came from. Apparently around late 19th century, the Earl of Carnarvon's son was the MP for Nottingham. He married a Lady Cowper who I suppose might then be styled Lady Carnarvon. Don't know if there's any connection though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,674 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Lord Carnarvon owned Kneeton Manor as well as Highclere in Hampshire (where Downton is filmed). Lady Carnarvon became the beneficiary after he died . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 39 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Most of the properties and land in Kneeton are still owned by the Neil Family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pianoman 1,531 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 I have been following this topic because I have ancestry in both Kneeton and Flintham. There are quite a few Harvey graves in Kneeton and more in Flintham churchyards. There are quite a few Neil graves in Kneeton. According to locals I spoke to the Neils were local councilors and land owners way back. There is an area close to Kneeton known locally as Harvey's Fields though you wont find it on a map. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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