DJ360 6,712 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Chulla #226. We have a similar sort of argument about temperature and physical/chemical activity at Absolute Zero. We can't get there either. Col Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 The original Star Trek series was a load of phooey, but it was imaginative phooey. There was lots of pre-quantum ideas and theories that perhaps don't seem so daft these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,712 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 And it was fun entertainment, as well as tackling all sorts of social issues through the medium of sc-fi. Col Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,268 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Where did the photons get their energy from to travel millions of light years before we observe them? Surely they will conk out at sometime? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,268 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 #226 Chulla Maybe the Big Bang theory will be consigned to the same scrap yard as the Flat Earth belief, as we discover a bit more? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Stop mentioning big bangs!! Our Margie is still a bit nervous!!..LOL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,594 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 You're right Ian. I keep seeing the accident happening as if in slow motion but the bang was more of a dull crumple/scrunch. Then Paul said 'sugar' yes, really, that was all he said... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Strange that slow motion thing- happened to me too. A bump is not good for the nerves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 370 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 There may well be a stronger belief in flat earth now than there ever was. There are forums and other things on the Web these days spreading the word. There are quite a few people out there today who really do believe the Earth is flat. Like HERE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,594 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Following your 'HERE' link, I've just read the 'debate' and have still come to the conclusion that the earth is a sphere! Interesting to read what other people think, though.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Yes, that is correct. It is, in fact, a sphere. If have dispelled the flat earth theory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,217 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I think you will find it is an oblate spheroid. Flattened at the poles and bulging at the equator 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 When a supernova goes 'POP' it emits high energy particles (cosmic rays) at very near light speed, however those going in diametrically opposite directions away from the 'POP' will be going away from each other at faster than light speed, but, nowt can go faster than light according to Mr E. I'm going for a lie down now.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,267 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 #262 It's also dangerously overcrowded with beings who have little or no respect for it! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Another thing I refuse to believe is that the outer planets, some of which are merely gas and not solid, are influenced by the sun's gravity pull. The sun to them is a mere shining star. Also, if the sun's gravity has been pulling on us for millions of years, then why hasn't it dragged us into it before now? Is there a fourth dimension making all this happen, or rather preventing it happening? Colly, your twice the speed of light theory does not hold up. The particles are travelling at the speed of light. The difference between their velocity is twice the speed of light, just an illustrative figure, not a physical fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,118 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Jill Sparrow said: #262 It's also dangerously overcrowded with beings who have little or no respect for it! Very true Jill...................just look at Aleppo..........and the poor Kids................... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,268 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Chulla said: Colly, your twice the speed of light theory does not hold up. The particles are travelling at the speed of light. The difference between their velocity is twice the speed of light, just an illustrative figure, not a physical fact. Can you explain that more clearly Chulla? - otherwise I will be going for a lie down with Colly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Er, I'll try (but I'm no Stephen Hawkin or Brian Cox - what do they know!). If two cars speed away from each other at 50 mph, their velocity difference is 100 mph, but nothing is actually travelling at 100 mph. It's called the Chulla paradox. I rest my case. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,118 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Wrong Chulla................the space between the two cars is travelling at 100 mph..............I think.........lol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 As James Burke said "everything is relative to each other!" I Suppose that's why Mr E called his theory "relativity," ICYMI scientists think they may have found a 5'th fundamental force to go along with the 4 we know about, (gravity, electro-magnetic, strong & weak) it's a boson that could explain 'dark matter' & other mysteries. It's called the 'protophobic X boson, it interacts with electrons & neutrons at very short range... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,268 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 6 hours ago, Chulla said: Er, I'll try (but I'm no Stephen Hawkin or Brian Cox - what do they know!). If two cars speed away from each other at 50 mph, their velocity difference is 100 mph, but nothing is actually travelling at 100 mph. It's called the Chulla paradox. I rest my case. So a light from the back of one of the cars that is travelling at the speed of light will never catch up with the other car due to time, but relatively they are parting at twice the speed of light, which is impossible. Right? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Don't ask me, ask Colly. I want a good night's kip! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 It's a paradox I think. I know that when 2 things are moving away from each other the light waves between them are stretched (red shifted) to a lower frequency. What happens when the speed between the things moving away from the central thing gets to higher than light speed? You'd think the frequency would go negative, but AFAIK that can't happen, so I suppose the light from one thing would never catch up with the other, so they'd no longer exist to each other as far as each is concerned. No sleep for me tonight & it's all Chulla's fault, lol. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Do they have to move away at the same speed Colly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Many years ago I awoke suddenly in the night and exclaimed 'That's it, that's it!. I grabbed a piece of paper and a pencil and wrote down - E equals em cee squared. I sent this off to a chap in the swiss patent office to see what he thought of it. He got back to me saying 'Mein Got! I think you have something there Mr Chulla. Call it Chulla's paradox until I think of a better name'. I never heard from him again. You do believe me Colly and PP, don't you.' 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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