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Map request, please! Radford

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Friesland, Old Radford, is mentioned in a newspaper article of 1840. Have managed to establish that Radford Grove Lane, which still exists, was in Friesland. Prospect Place was also classed as being in Friesland. Any idea of the exact area of Friesland, please? Going away in a couple of hours for a few days, so if any replies, don't think I'm ignoring you! Thanks

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I can produce a map of sorts, but there are a few complications ! The only reference to Friesland I can find is the one you've probably discovered, which is a school complex in Sandiacre.

Radford Grove Lane still exists and is in Radford. Also in Radford in the early 19th century was a Prospect Street (still exists), Prospect Parade, Prospect Terrace, and Prospect House (a big house).

I can't see a Prospect Place in Radford, but there is one which still exists in Lenton - near the south end of Willoughby Street. Which suggests that Friesland, whatever it was, stretched from modern-day Radford across to modern Lenton.

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Still here! Thanks Cliff Ton. A map "of sorts" would still be useful, showing Radford Grove Lane, Prospect St/Pde/Terr and Prospect Place if all all possible

Have found some other roads on the 1851 census classed as Friesland - Dales Row and Hill St, if that helps

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There was a chapel shown on Prospect St, late 19th century.

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As TBI mentions.....a chapel in about the same place as the present day Pheasant Inn.

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And I'll guess that Prospect Place might be the row of 4 houses above the OSP.

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It's entirely possible Dales Row and Hill St were in the adjacent area, demolished when the Players Factory was built in the 1880s.

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In 1884, John Player is known to have moved into Prospect House, known as 'Penny Pie House', just before his factory opened. It was next to Prospect Terrace and Fountain Terrace. This was apparently at the bottom of Outgang Lane, now Hartley Rd. I presume it is Churchville on the map. It was next to two other large houses in their own grounds, I can't spot where this would be on the map, unless they are the buildings right of the Mill.

Sorry, just realised that bit's not showing on Cliff's map above.

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I've caught up with you now ! I had this map but didn't get round to posting it. It's obviously earlier than the previous one. Some of it is a bit unclear so I've added a few names. Hill Street is the line of what is now Radford Boulevard; Prospect House and Prospect Terrace front onto Alfreton Road. This is before any Players factories. Dales Row is the one I haven't managed to find at all.

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With the different spelling of Friezeland a few references come up in the news archives. Prospect Place is mentioned as being there and also a public house called The Queen .

Another ref is to the Queens Inn on Craven St. or could be Haven St.

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Thanks Cliff, I now see Prospect House on the later map. I wonder if the few houses at right-angles might be 'Fountain Terrace', being next to the water fountain?

So it was Friezeland originally, became referred to as a more Anglicised Friesland, before it changed to Prospect Place. Got it now!

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Another ref is to the Queens Inn on Craven St. or could be Haven St.

You might not have noticed it ( a bit unclear on the second map) Haven Street is marked above my red 'Prospect Parade'.

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I have asked around some of my family whose roots are in Radford but have no memory of such a place. Some places had local names which were often referred to verbally but were never officially named such.

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Just seen all of the replies as have been away. Thanks so much, everyone, for all the effort you've put in to this for me and especially for the maps!

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thought you may like to know, my ggggdfather lived at Prospect House before it was sold to players. Henry Lowe owned a lace factory, in Nottingham, one of his invented looms is in the Albert and Victoria museum.

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Welcome to Nottstalgia northamptonian. It's nice to have someone connected to one of our topics. To celebrate, here's a closer version of the map showing Prospect House. The road across the top is Alfreton Road. Prospect Terrace is still there.

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The three buildings I've marked in red have survived. They are a row of Georgian houses which stand out compared to the rest of the area.

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By coincidence, last week one of them came up for sale, so it's possible to see inside, and there's a surprising set of cellars. Not your typical Radford house. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34906728.html?premiumA=true

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My late grandparents used to live at prospect place.Not sure if it could have been in the house that is now for sale,all I know is they lived in 'rooms',that's what they called it years ago,not apartments as they do now.They later moved to a 'new' house one of which were being built on farnborogh road clifton.

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All the years I went up and down Alfreton Rd and can't remember seeing this row of houses.

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I'm the opposite to that ! My grandma lived just further along from there at Grimston Road, and even when I was very young I remember seeing those houses as we went past on the bus.

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All the years I went up and down Alfreton Rd and can't remember seeing this row of houses.

Same here Kayjay? Thought I knew that area well.

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Hi

I've just found this site by chance, whilst doing family history research. The 1841 census shows my gggg-grandparents, John & Annis Stanton, living in Prospect Place. I knew it was in Radford, but not whereabouts, so the maps have been useful. As some of my Mum's cousins were born in Radford too, our family seems to have been in the area for several generations!

It's nice to 'place' their home a bit better.

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Here's a description of 'Prospect Place' which incidentally is where my ggggranddad was from.

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The text which nnsc posted includes a reference to Lovett Mill, three quarters of a mile north of Radford. I'd never heard of it before but it was near Gauntley Street and Gladstone Street in Basford, which have survived.

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I can't see a Prospect Place in Radford, but there is one which still exists in Lenton - near the south end of Willoughby Street. Which suggests that Friesland, whatever it was, stretched from modern-day Radford across to modern Lenton.

I think that might be the one. I'm currently researching some Kirk ancestors. They seemed to own property on Prospect Place, Radford, and the numbers went up to at least 21. However, they also became wealthy and moved to the Park, including Willoughby St and Park Drive. I need to check how close these were on the old maps. Their occupation was "Lace Manufacturers" so that must be where the money came from. I'm still trying to piece it all together.

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I should have read the whole thread first. There's clearly two Prospect Places: one in Radford and one in Lenton. It must be coincidence that my Kirk ancestor owned property on one, and then moved to very near the other. Despite the blurring between Radford district/sub-district/parish with Lenton, it seems the New Lenton one was in use by 1850 as it's mentioned in the papers. However, so was the Radford one. The 1851 census shows the Radford one in the "Freezland" area, along with other streets, and the Pheasant Inn is on it -- that would mean that it is what's now Prospect Street. I do wonder, given the power of money and the lace trade, whether my ancestor had anything to do with the name moving to the Lenton one.

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