Nottingham from above - St Ann's


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Notable for being the one where almost everything you see has now been demolished. Almost none of these buildings remain. I've added a few street names to help anyone get their bearings. The thing at centre-right is Victoria Station. Everything above there is/was St Ann's. Everything in the lower half is South Sherwood St and Dryden Street, now overrun by the University.

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A few of the others.

Market Sq http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14584

Shakespeare St http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14599

Castle Gate http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14629

Daybrook http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14780

Arkwright St http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14841

Basford http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14973

Broad Marsh Canal Street http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15170

Newcastle Colliery http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15267

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Your Alfred Street South is a bit off Cliff, it's over Alfred Street Central, that was my neck of the woods as a kid until I was about 13. One of my Grans lived off Alfred Street Central, we lived between Alfred Street South and Pym Street, which ran approx parallel to "South".

My Other Gran lived off Peas Hill Road, my Mum's Sister lived off Union Road.

Been so long I can't recall many of the small streets these days, but knew them like the back of my hand back then.

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I wondered about the accuracy of Alfred Street. I looked on an old map and tried to work out where 'Central' finished and 'South' started, and looking again, I can see I was slightly out.

For anyone who isn't sure, Alfred Street comes in at the very top right corner at the junction with Lamartine Street, and then curves across the top and down the left side of the photo.

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The chapel just above the Alfred Street marker is the start of "South", just opposite the chapel was Len's barber shop where I got my haircuts.

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I've got my bearings now, the marker is over St Anns Well Road.

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At the top, just right if centre is the factory Pork Farms had, I can see turner Street and the Terrace I lived in is just visible.

Can't think of the name of it, but there is a large factory centre, lower than the Pork Farms factory, that caught fire in the late 1950's, boy hood mate of mine, Michael Logan lived opposite it. The factory ran along the street with office entry on Alfred Street South.

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What year was that photo taken Cliff??? Some things on it weren't there when I was growing up, on Huntingdon Street, the "Annex" school buildings overlooking Vic Station, there's a tall building on the left side, it wasn't there when I went to school, there was also an extra annex building when I was at school, we took art/tech drawing and metalwork in that one, that appears missing. The other annex buildings were NCC School meal kitchens, and Huntingdon's cafeteria for school dinners.

Also I spot Shelton Street School, but there are houses almost up to the school. Where some of the houses stand was our wood workshop for Huntingdon Street.

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Any idea of the date Clif Ton? Being a railway buff I have been guessing the type of loco on the train visible in the station, I reckon its an A3 pacific on a northbound express, could it have "BRITISH RAILWAYS" on the tender? then 1948/49.

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A3s were allocated at Leicester (Central) at that time for working Marylebone - Manchester expresses I don't think there were any V2s allocoted to the "Cenrtal section"

And the engine is clean :)

Also to be seen on the photo is The Nottingham Brewery just under the train mentioned in the text.

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Yes cliff,well done,behind The Hole in the Wall pub,appears to be wasteland..the printers where firbecks Dad worked..hot built yet?

Just under 'Bluecoat st' writing appears to be a very long factory..running from North Sherwood st.to Dryden st.any ideas? As you know I lived in this area from '61''73..and a lot of it was demolished in the 60's.where the Newcastle Arms is (white),travel right towards say,Clinton Arms,you see a small inlet which is Matlock Terrace,then Matlock st.above that is,and still there,Major st.On the corner opposite the Old Roebuck was Bullimore & Parker..which became NJD disco shop. Back to North Sherwood st.the next turn is St.Albans Terrace,which ran parallel behind moons garage and later became a compound for those Triumph TC police cars.St.Albans Terrace was a dead end- save for a small entry that ran behind Dennis & Roberts.In between Shakespeare Villas ( old reg office) and the side entrance to Moons car wash,is another big w/house with a chimney.. was this a glove factory? It butted up to the YWCA. The Electric building on the corner of Huntington st.is visible and the corner shop mentioned by nonna and Benjamin recently. The Yorker or Rose of England can be seen ..just down from where York House recently was!3 chimney stacks up from the end of this snap is my gaff,the bridge under the smoking chimney took you to the top of Union rd.Sytners/Aldi now?

Roughly where you enter off York st.for House of Fraser and Tesco now.Interesting to see that these buildings were huddled in straight lines ,where housing estate were circles and patterns.good stuff!!

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How are you seeing the Loco? I can just make it out but can't find any easy way of enlarging it. Certainly looks like a V2 to me as far as I can tell. V2s were certainly common enough on mixed traffic through Bulwell Common, including the iconic 'Green Arrow, now at York back in the late 50s and early 60s. A3s much less so I think.

If that pic was 1949, it was my birth year. Even as a youth, I knew Mansfield Rd and Vic Station, but the areas either side were a mystery to me.

Col

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Great picture Cliff. I tend to take my bearings from the Vic station clock and the Victoria hotel next door, but I just can't see them on this photo. Having my eyes tested in January maybe that's the problem. :blink:

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Just under 'Bluecoat st' writing appears to be a very long factory..running from North Sherwood st.to Dryden st.any ideas?

Described on several maps as "Lace Dressing Works". The road it is on was called Huskison Street which has completely disappeared; on a modern map it is roughly at Dundas Close https://goo.gl/maps/2nvQNQdmfVN2

And for the railway people who were trying to identify the locomotive, does this help?

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Thanks, Ian. I could recognize the rock cutting just out of the tunnel with Huntingdon St in the background. Just couldn't figure out why I couldn't see the clock. It was late last night. That's my excuse anyway. :-). It all makes sense this morning.

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A B1 maybe?

Really difficult for me. Sometimes I think it looks like a taper boiler, which would rule out Gresley designs and point to something like a black 5.. or possibly a Jubilee. They were fairly frequent on passenger stuff on the GC. Funnel looks too tall for a V2 or other Gresley design. Could well be a B1. Loads of them in and around Vic in the 50s/60s. In other words. I haven't a clue. :(

Col

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It's a B1. Nothing like an A3. The A3 had a wide, sloping firebox (not external on B1). Its frame above the wheels dipped down at the cab (straight on the B1). Its tender had eight wheels (six on the B1). I was spotting on the GCR at Basford at this time and only saw V2s on fast-fish trains to Immingham. Plenty of B1s on passenger services.

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No nameplate, so definitely not an A3. It's a B1 all right. Look at the LNER standard tender.

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