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Ailments, Aches & Pains. (Let's hear them here)

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5 hours ago, Waddo said:

Would that be enthovens at matlock, swadlincote lead works or the dreaded 'cappa pass ' near Hull?

 

None of the above, but was owned by the same lot that owned Eindhoven's... I always thought it was Darley Dale rather than Matlock??  We had a manager come from them, and odd workers on assignments.  But I worked at  Holman Michel in St Helens. Closed years ago.  It had numerous owners, including GKN at some point and Royal Dutch Shell.  Also different factory names.. 'Quirk, Barnes and summatorother' I believe.  I worked mostly on a Rotary Furnace smelting drosses from the refining process, to recover the tin, copper, antimony etc., that we refined out of the lead.  Occasionally worked on refining too, and making 'pig' lead, massive flat casts for rolling into sheet, etc.

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Yes, your correct DJ, it is at Darley Dale but at the time i couldn't think of the exact location, matlock was the nearest place i could think of as it's not a million miles from it.

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Vic Pownalls scrapyard used an alligator shear to chop the tops of car batteries, empty the contents out and send the plates to Eindhoven at Darley dale. The ground under the shear was very much a no go area due to the acid.

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I hope they had thick soled boots Brew, otherwise, one day, they'd find themselves just balancing on two stumps.

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At the Lead Refinery, we had more problems with caustic than with acid. The main substance used to refine the antimony and tin out of molten lead,  was caustic soda.  Whole bags full of it in 'pearl' form.  The stuff would melt to a grey sludge which was mixed into the lead with a sort of giant food mixer.  We would sample the lead at intervals and you soon got to know when it was pure, by the way it crystallised out in a little mould.

Once the lead was pure enough, we'd throw a load of Sodium Nitrate on top which had the effect of turning the caustic 'sludge' into something resembling rice crispies.  Those would just be scooped of the top of the melting pot using a perforated ladle. and stored in drums until they went into the furnace.  But, they were still highly caustic and tended to attract moisture and turn liquid   Get that on your boots and the soles would soon be dropping off.  Some nasty burns were had from getting it on skin too.  

The only acid I recall us using was Hydrochloric.  Dripped into the molten lead while mixing.  Bit of an experiment as I recalled.  Another way was to use Ammonium Chloride, which would create great clouds of ammonia.

 

Those methods would remove Tin and Antimony plus other bits and pieces.  The other main impurity was Copper.  We got that out by mixing bags of sulphur into the lead while it was almost cool enough to start setting, then keep mixing and whack the heat up.  Suddenly there'd be a thick layer of stuff like black soot, but much heavier, on top of the melting pot.  Took some effort to dross that off, but then you had  99.997% pure lead.

 

Not the most pleasant job.  :)

 

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4 hours ago, FLY2 said:

I hope they had thick soled boots Brew, otherwise, one day, they'd find themselves just balancing on two stumps.

From memory all they had was a rubber apron, wellingtons and plastic gauntlets. HSE would have a fit today.

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On 3/3/2019 at 12:12 AM, DJ360 said:

On the positive side I had my root canal work done yesterday on the tooth that caused the abscess. It all went smoothly and painlessly.  But then I should hope so for £350!!  Didn't even have too much lasting numbness after the anaesthetic. Dentists said to leave it as is until after my Mexico trip then get it re-crowned.

 

 

Maybe spoke too soon.  The guy who did the root canal work made it clear that he couldn't guarantee it would be a complete cure., but I was willing to try because I don't want to lose any more teeth. Was Ok all last week but now some worrying symptoms.  Bit of swelling and is now painful if I press the gum over the area where the root of the tooth is.

Will see how it goes till Monday, but it's looking like £350 down the drain plus more for an extraction.  And less than two weeks way from a very expensive holiday...  :(

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Get some antibiotics down you ASAP Col, so the course is finished before your holiday, you’ll need to drink to keep cool in Mexico! 

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Yesterday we were talking to a friend of ours who lives in Seattle.  In the past couple of years he’s had serious health issues and the medication he’s had to take has made his teeth black.  He’s decided to spend his kids inheritance and have major dental work done at around 60,000 USD.  He will have a General Anaesthetic and have all his teeth taken out, reckons he’s still got 28 which is pretty good for an 80 year old.  Then he is having the titanium implants put in both upper and lower jaws and temporary teeth fixed. He will have the permanent teeth fitted in 6 months.   

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I had a lot of dental work done years ago by a chap in Nottingham called Malcolm Pendlebury. He was a very artistic dentist. I’ve got bridges, caps and more gold than in Fort Knox. Fortunately the gold is very discrete so I don’t look like a Chinese restaurant proprietor. You can only see a bit of it when I smile broadly which I rarely do!:)

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I'd have a few implants if I could afford it, but at around £2k a shot it would set me back about £20k minimum just to fill a few gaps. I don't have that kind of dosh lying about.

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9 minutes ago, DJ360 said:

I'd have a few implants if I could afford it, but at around £2k a shot it would set me back about £20k minimum just to fill a few gaps. I don't have that kind of dosh lying about.

 

20 grand ? bleddy hell......i'd sooner have me ''Gnashers'' falling into my Pint every time i laughed..........

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Got me first house for 3000.  I've heard of inflation but that's crazy. :crazy:

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You don’t think I got my perfect smile for nothing do you? :biggrin:

Actually I’ve probably spent more hours in the dentist’s chair than you lot put together ...... but to me it was worth it, my Mum had to have all her teeth out when she was only 40 due to gum disease, I’ve still got 28 teggies but some have been crowned for years.  

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Good on you Lizzie. I never skimp on my dental care. Not as many left as you, but enough at 73 !  smile2

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Just had a count up.  Reckon I've got 23 left.  The tooth I just had root canal in, in a second root.. 'cos the first one had already been done....this being the tooth that broke off at gum level a week or so back, doesn't hurt if I prod it etc.  But the next one along, also crowned by the same bloke at the same time.. is very sensitive to a bit of a prod.  I'm wondering if I've been talked into spending £350 on the wrong tooth.  Some serious questions will be asked on Monday.  And the pain at the moment is nothing much for a hard Bestwoodian like me, but the swelling is already building up.. and I've got a Doc's appt. on Monday so I can moan abahht summat else.. and also supposed to be meeting Picko in the Cavern..

 

All above said. I've always had teeth which were... to use the correct Orthodontical Terminology.. 'a bit crap'.  I've always cleaned them properly etc., but they've given me 'grief' most of my life.  Luck of the draw I suppose... But I still have a decent head of hair, I can remember my own name.. ( mostly)  and I am obviously a magnificent specimen of manhood, just in need of a 'top up tan' in Meh- Hi- Co..  I just hope that the Me-Hi-Can laydees form an orderly queue for my attentions..  we Brits like a queue.. :)

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By Sunday.. the recurring abscess was in full swing.  Just a red bulge on my gum and a bit of pain.  But, by the time I'd been out buying a few bits for my hols, I was feeling more than a bit crappy and my top lip was swelling a bit, which didn't happen last time. There was also an obvious build up of pus..  Nice. 

Called the local Dental Emergency line.  Their advice, given I'm an old git with a few issues, was to go to A&E to get assessed.  I went down to Whiston Hospital and the waiting area was packed. New waiting room. Not an improvement and it was  freezing in there. Mercifully only waited about 20 minutes. As I was explaining the 'back story' to the Nurse Practitioner... the abscess burst.. Double nice...  :Shock:

 

She prescribed Clarythromycin AND my favourite drug Metronidazole so that's a whole load of antibiotics and for 7 days.  Also gave me top strength Co Codamol with 30 mg. Codeine in the mix plus a note for the Mexican Authorites in case they accuse me of being a drug smuggler.. though I think they have a few of their own there...

 

So, after a partial Dry January then a Dry bit of Feb, I'm now onto a Dry March for nine days.  Oh joy!!

 

I will be well and truly ready for all that 'all inclusive' booze by the time I hit Cancun..

 

Didn't eat much today so was starving a little while ago and needed something to absorb the Metrowotsitzole.  Found a tin of mushy peas.  2 minutes in the microwave and a good dollop of Mint Sauce.  Luvleh.. but norrasgud as Goose Fair ones in the 1950s.

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Good job you still have a sense of humour, Col.  I  hope it all clears up by the time you go on your trip.

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Went to physiotherapy again for a bit of puling and bending.  Actually I think it's helping but I'm a bit achy even in my good leg right now.  I think the exercises in one tend to stress the good one and my hips.  Oh well! No gain without a bit of pain as they say.  I do walk better when I've been there.  Tend to drag my foot when I'm  tired.  Balance still a bit funny.  If a cop ever sees me getting into my car he'll probably give me a breath test.  ;)

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I know that feeling Dave, had to learn to walk again after I'd got over Lyme disease, started with a walking stick up my drive, 1/2 a mile, took me about a couple of hours there and back, then stepping and up and down on a concrete building block, working two two pound bar bells weights to gain arm strength...Jeeze it was painful. No pain, no gain.

 

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Regarding cars and cops, if one saw me getting out my truck, he'd accuse me of being intoxicated, my knees have had it and takes me some time to walk properly. All those DUI tests they do I couldn't do these days, I'd fall over, all I could do was request a breathalizer test and be done with it.

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I went to see my Doc this morning about the way my legs are getting unreasonably panful sometimes after even quite short walks.  She said the circulation seems OK and I have good pulses in my feet etc.  So, just a suite of blood tests which I got done straight away .  We'll go from there. May wel just turn out to be age related and nothing much to be done.

 

As for teeth.  I've continued with the antibiotics. Not much pain unless I accidentally get anything into the big hole in my gum where the abscess was. Care needed with hot drinks.

I'm seeing my own dentist tomorrow and have also booked with the specialist who did the root canal. Seeing him on Weds, which means I'll have to cut short my attendance at a funeral for a good friend. Whatever else happens I'm not taking Metronidazole in Mexico as it will stop me having the odd Tequila and can also cause a reaction to sunlight.  I'm going to ask the Dentist to give me a prescription for Clarithromycin to take with me just in case anything kicks off while I'm there.

 

 

 

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Just a thought Col, would you use a Mexican dentist? I know people have been to Eastern Europe for dental treatment at one third the price of Britain. Also people going to India for eye operations.

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Good point Den, these Asians seem to have a good reputation for eye surgery at much lower cost than anything in the west

 

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