FLY2 10,108 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 I bet she does ! OUCH , 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Compo 10,328 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Naughty, naughty Fly! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Compo 10,328 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Anyrode, the Earth is difinitely NOT flat - there is a hill just behind my house. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 And you can see the curvature of the earth when at sea, looks odd when you see a ship start rising "out of the sea" on the horizon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,720 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 25/11/2017 at 6:26 PM, plantfit said: In the science museum in London they have a long thin wire coming from the beams in the very top of the building with a weight and pointer at the bottom,on the floor is a clock face, the pendulum swings in one direction but when you pass it again a few hours later the pendulum appears to have moved around the clockface when in reality the earth has rotated but the pendlum is still swinging in the same plane if you follow me,proving that the earth is spinning Rog I saw that in the early 1960s. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,599 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't get this! The whole building is moving/rotating, not just the floor, so why does the situation described above happen.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,569 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 The pendulum swings in the same plane all the time ie: north to south to start with but with the building/ground/earth is rotating and the pendulum still swinging in the same plane,so the earth has moved around but the pendulum hasn't moved round with it, if that make sense Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,599 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Still don't get it! The whole earth including the atmosphere moves round, doesn't it? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,569 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Hang a pendulum from a (door frame) for example put a piece of paper with a clockface drawn on it and place that directly under the pendulum on the floor with say a 6" gap between paper clockface and bottom of pendulum,set the pedulum swinging nice and steady now rotate the paper clock either clockwise or anticlockwise the pendulum should now be swinging in different time area's, the one in the science museum is on a massive scale but the model should give you some idea Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,599 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I get that suggestion, but it's not just the floor surface that's spinning in the case of the Earth - it's the building as well. Everything is spinning! (Like my head!) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Me too Margie. I keep reading the explanations, and think I've understood them. Then I imagine that I'm up in space and looking at the earth, then I'm baffled again and re read everything. Whatever is happening, I'm happy with ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,569 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 The pendulum (quite heavy) hangs on a very thin wire with no resistance at the top so it can't turn with the rest of the building,it just keeps swinging in the same plane, whereas the ground (earth) is revolving in space albeit taking 24 hours to come back to the starting point of the pendulum, the wire is very long (I don't know maybe 100 feet long) and it swings quite a way maybe 20 feet, there maybe some youtube stuff on I don't know,I'll have a look when I get back from me trike ride Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,569 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 The top of the pillars on the Humber bridge are 36mm further apart to allow for the curvature of the earth, Rog 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I've heard that before Rog. That's good enough an explanation for me. Bu66er the wire, weights and pendulum things ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,569 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Try "googling" Foucault pendulum, theres plenty of youtube stuff as well,might be able to explain it better than me Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,720 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I think the Science Museum penduum can be a bit confusing. ( It certanly confused me as a kid. ) Thing is we are used to seeing pendulums ( pendulii ?) on clocks, which can only swing in one plane relative to the clock mechanism and therefore will work with the clock in any orientation. The one at the museum can swing in any plane relative to the building and to the Earth. So, as the Earth rotates the pendulum can stay in its natural plane and the building appears to move around it. ..I think... And anyway, my daughter phoned me from the top of the World Trade Centre in New York, only days before 9/11. She told me she could see the curvature of the Earth and I'd sooner believe her than some Flat Earth loony who is incapable of believing the evidence of his own eyes and the whole weight of science. Col 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 If a satellite is going south to north on a polar orbit passing over Notts on this pass, as it goes goes over the north pole it'll then go north to south over Siberia & New Zealand, as it goes over the south pole & comes back north, when it gets to Notts latitude it'd be over west of Ireland or somewhere near & on every pass go a bit further westward as the earth move under the satellites path polar path... Wonder how the flat would earthers explain that??? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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colly0410 1,181 Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 I saw the sun rise from 40,000 feet over the Atlantic a few weeks ago & could clearly see the curvature of the earth....... Are there any flat earthers on Nottstagia? I'd love to talk to one. The nearest I've got was my late Mother-in-law who said the sun went from west to east when she was in Joondalup Western Australia as it went the wrong way. When her sister-in-law said they were going up north for the warmer weather she corrected them & said "no, you mean south, it gets colder when you go north!" It was explained to her loads of times but she never got it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,404 Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Did you see the curvature of the Earth or the edge of a disc? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart.C 491 Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 No I'm NOT a flat Earthist, but the curvature could have been caused by the glass in the plane window. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,720 Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 There must be something in this Flat Earth stuff.. after all the Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe.... 6 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Been reading on a flat earth site that gravity doesn't exist. They explain the reason we stick to the earth is because it is accelerating upwards at 32 feet per second per second & this goes on forever. I'm wondering what happens when the upwards accelerating flat earth eventually gets near light speed ? Looks like things could get interesting on our flat earth in the future... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,450 Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Isn't that similar to the big bang theory, that we are all accelerating outwards into the ever-expanding universe ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Till 1998 they thought the universe was slowing down it's expansion & would eventually go in reverse. But then they found out through several different ways that the expansion appears to be accelerating, they have zero idea how or why. I lay in bed thinking how the universe will be in billions of years time... Been trying to work out the power source that powers the earth upwards at 32 feet per second per second all the time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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