philmayfield 6,125 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Two sure ways of losing money. Going to court and losing Going to court and winning! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,141 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 My understanding is that you are entitled to cut/ lop any overhanging growth from your neighbours garden, ie trees, shrubs etc. But you must offer the cuttings back to your neighbour. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,141 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 On a lighter note. 'How is my day'. Well, today the pair of us are celebrating our Emerald wedding anniversary, 55years, and we're bloody stuck in, self isolating. Can somebody nip round and throw a brick through the vicars window. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,600 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 I hope you’ll both enjoy your anniversary today.  I didn’t know that Emerald was for 55 years.  Our Emerald will be next year and coincidentally, my engagement ring is an emerald as well.   2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,305 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Congratulations, Mr and Mrs Beekay! My father used to say that about the brick and the vicar's window! You were both married in the same church! May even have been the same vicar. If so, he's in the Isle of Wight now, which is where he came from. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 hours ago, letsavagoo said: I would suggest very strongly that you sort this out between yourself. If you start legal action then even minor disputes like this can get very and I mean very costly. DO NOT GO DOWN THAT PATH. As far as I am aware you are entitled to trim away any growth from adjoining land that overhangs your land. Check on this and use it as a threat to get some compromise. Surely 2 adults can sort out this nonsense.  Yes of course.. I have no real intention of getting into litigation.. but the hint might jog him along.   2 hours ago, philmayfield said: Two sure ways of losing money. Going to court and losing Going to court and winning!  See above.   1 hour ago, Beekay said: My understanding is that you are entitled to cut/ lop any overhanging growth from your neighbours garden, ie trees, shrubs etc. But you must offer the cuttings back to your neighbour.  That's true.. but it doesn't solve the other issues like him screwing things to MY wall. Also.. I've discovered since yesterday that the Cotoneaster he insists on growing up MY porch is quite possibly illegal.. as they are classed as invasive under the same legislation which covers Japanese Knotweed etc.  I think there's probably enough there to scare him into getting rid..whether or not it is officially an invasive species. If nothing else..he is very much a self-styled 'pillar of the community' and likes to be seen to 'do the right thing' . almost to the extent of tedium. There are similarities to 'Martin Bryce' in 'Ever Decreasing Circles'..and his wife is also called Anne... Best of all... the low hedge he created is of very similar stuff....possibly identical.. which he admitted to me yesterday he'd grown from lots of little cuttings. 'Hoist wth his own petard'.. methinks. .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Beekay.. Congrats on the Emerald Anniversary! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,413 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 10 hours ago, DJ360 said: 1. We sort this out amicably and he agrees to give some slack in the short term.. Or 2.. we resolve it via litigation...  Avoid litigation! The courts have seen some long, long border disputes and the only winners are lawyers.  I have in the past had similar disputes with my own and the rental properties, one lady even went 'legal' over three wooden panels. She must have spent a fortune on solicitors letters and stiil had to pay for the fence. She never speaks now when we see each other...  Look to your deeds for boundaries, party walls, access for maintenance and ownership etc. these are often defined there.  Be positive, state what's going to happen and leave it with him. Give him enough notice to do something with his plants but apart from that the time for negotiations has gone. With the forgoing proviso just get on with it, remove the offending fastners and push the plants back far enough for the bricklayer - what's he going to do?  It is very easy for me to say damn him get on with it but at the end of the day you are the one who has to live next door. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,125 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 It’s not uncommon to find access to a neighbouring property for maintenance on a property deed. You would be perfectly within your rights to remove anything your neighbour has attached to your wall. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ValuerJim 277 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 How about taking the wall down to your ground level and replacing it with a post and panel fence? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 It's an idea Jim but would just cost more and create maintenance issues. Most people on the development have low walls between or around what was originally built as 'open plan'. I just want to take the wall up to around 'hip height' ..say approx 3 feet.. close to my front door. and then maybe to 18" for the rest of the run to the street boundary. It's what neighbour wanted all along. but now he's grown his jungle and attached his trellis to MY wall.. he's changed his tune. I'll catch him later today and spell it out. If he won't play I'll just do as Jim (Brew) suggests above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,125 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 You can usually go up to 2 metres height with a fence then you won’t have to look at him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 But that's not really it Phil. I've made clear above that we have been both neighbours and friends for years. It's only this issue which is causing friction and I don't want lasting animosity to result. I just want to find ways of working it all out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,125 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Yes, agreed Col. If you’ve enjoyed a cordial relationship there’s no point in aggravating the situation. I’ve always found that reasonable people will accept a compromise, or in your case, the legal realities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Sounds like this is a common problem. When I moved into this house fifteen years ago all the neighbors were new.  We agreed with the new neighbor on one side to go halves on the fence.  Everything was fine, they grew a bit of shrubbery on it.  I did staining on my side.  We paid half each on any maintenance issues.  A few years ago they left and new folks moved in.  We got along with them until recently when a section detached due to a warped post.  His wife started whining about her expensive plants it might fall on if "i" didn't fix it.  Time was, I would have done it but do to health condition I can't just now.  So I got a couple of estimates and showed them to him, saying at half each it will be  xxx dollars.  At which point she piped up,  "It's your fence"  To quote Al Read, "I thought right monkey!"  He agreed to pay half so the job was done.  I showed him the contaractor's bill and he paid half.  Then he said it's really your fence, it's on your side of the property line.  Not being a happy doggy I growled at him, then you can get your shrubbery off it.  They are rotting the wood.  That's where it stands right now.  I'm thinking he needs to sign a formal agreement that it is my fence.  I will then be willing to pay for repair or do it myself.  He wants the use of it but doesn't want to share the expense of it.  I told Mrs. L if he wants to be like that I can take the pesky thing down and he can build his own.  It's on my side of the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,413 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, loppylugs said: Â It's on my side of the line. Â Pity you can't use Creosote now days LL, it would solve two problems in one go. Â Â 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 I think you should have a good old fashioned fist fight DJ, my Dad always told us lads never argue, just bash em. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,141 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 LL, are you going to get border guards and the occasional watch tower? Funny how things can run along swimmingly for years, then introduce a new element, ( new neighbour) to the equation and things go belly up. It's not nice and leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 No need for the watch tower BK. I've got an attack Beagle and a Lab cross that can lick you to death in five minutes. I'm safe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,507 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 A very Happy 55th Wedding Anniversary Mr and Mrs Beekay. Â xx 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,158 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 You seem a lovely bloke BK ,,You deserve a lovely day........ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,141 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Jill Sparrow said: You were both married in the same church But you don't know which church I got married at? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,141 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Thank you very much for those kind words Benjamin 1945. And all good wishes to you too. Thanks to all for your greetings. Took the wife to Skegness for our 25th and playfully buried her in the sand.....Better go back and dig her up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,305 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Didn't you get married at St Peter's, Old Radford? Or was that your brother? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IAN FINN 807 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Was she still buried in the sand or did you find her in the SHIP Beekay. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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