IAN FINN 792 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Take care DJ one step at a time try not to worry about anything have a good rest hopefully you will have a good day tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,071 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just read last few post, i really do think we all get along well on nottstalgia we have our up's and down's but we allway's try and give each other support and kind words. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Interesting article on one of the last female ATA pilots. A Nottingham girl by birth. Â https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-55601962 Â Their generation still has a lot to teach us! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katyjay 5,085 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 What a brave lady and an interesting one. She doesn't look her age either. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 I did a few sessions with a lady instructor (that was flying sessions!) when I did a conversion to Cessnas at Tollerton. She was very competent and went on to become a commercial pilot after she had amassed her instructional hours. She worked at the Frank Spencer School of Flying, a name which always amused me! Funnily enough, Michael Crawford was learning to fly during that time and flew in to Tollerton on a cross country exercise, much to the surprise of the lady in the control tower! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katyjay 5,085 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Speaking of 'dropping in' while flying, many moons ago when we lived in a small town in N. Az, Patrick Swayze was flying somewhere or other and developed engine trouble. He landed at the tiny airport just outside town and he and his friend got a ride into town. They finished up at a friend's restaurant. The friend was chatting to them and said, I am going to a wedding later today, want to come along? And they did, much to the surprise of the wedding party. Patrick did a dance with the bride.  3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 The ATA pilot was born Eleanor D Fish towards the end of 1917 in Nottingham. Her mother's maiden name was Creswell. Â Someone on this site may know the family. Anyone with access to the 1939 Register might be able to tell us where she lived. Â Married in Nottingham in 1945. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,594 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, katyjay said:  Patrick did a dance with the bride.  Oooh. How lovely!!! That would have been one of my wildest dreams fulfilled.  I still love watching him in Dirty Dancing 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,118 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Â I thought Patrick was a great Performer Dancer/ actor...my claim to fame is sat with Donna at the same table in a Cafe on the Isle of Man......ok it was at a different time even year.......lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
annswabey 599 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Eleanor D Fish, born 15/10/17, lived at Hamilton House, Pelham Rd, Nottm, with her parents George F and Dorothy. Â Her occupation in 1939 was Architectural Assistant 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Brilliant, Ann. Â I can see why she thought learning to fly would be a bit more fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
annswabey 599 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 I don't know about fun, but certainly more interesting than her previous occupation! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 At lunchtime, when we were allowed out from Manning, we often used to walk around the area and Pelham Road was one I remember as there were some beautiful houses there. I think at least some part of it has been redeveloped in recent years. Houses are beautiful no more! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,497 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Having read this article about Eleanor Wadsworth I decided to Google possible information about my Sister-in-law’s late Mother-in-law who did the same work in WW2.  All I found out about her was that she was Charles de Gaulle’s chauffeur when she met her future husband who was a Flight Lt  in the RAF, he was also a Barrister and Conservative MP.  No mention of her flying planes but I’ve seen various documents years ago that confirm that she did in fact.  Until just now I never knew any of the family history and there’s even a Wiki page!  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 There have been some good documentaries about the ATA girls, including this one. Â https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M-xjUqiqVq0 Â They didn't merely fly Spits but often heavy bombers, much to the consternation of the men. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 I knew a few lady pilots. They were as least as good as the blokes and often better. They were always very precise and tended not to do silly things like some of the men did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, annswabey said: Eleanor D Fish, born 15/10/17, lived at Hamilton House, Pelham Rd, Nottm, with her parents George F and Dorothy.  Her occupation in 1939 was Architectural Assistant  I wonder if there's an enumerator/transcription error there. I can't find any sign of a Hamilton House on Pelham Road, but there is one on Clinton Avenue which is the next one up.   https://goo.gl/maps/ZedZDcK5mNcgqtuM7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nonnaB 4,893 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 20 hours ago, IAN FINN said: The apprenticeships in the 60s did not pay much but they were good times and you learned lots things you dont really forget today. True Ian , My boss saw me one day folding towels, she made me undo them and showed me how to fold them so that all the folds could be seen in order in the linen cupboard. To this day I still do it that way. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nonnaB 4,893 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 22 hours ago, mary1947 said: nonnaB you did your training about same time as me and we were good at customer services as we were real apprentices, but I think our trade as gone down hill .since we trained. I know that we could not call our stylist by there first names we had to call them mrs smith miss lythel and our salon had cubicles. One stylist one junior one customer. Yes my boss was Miss Godfrey although she was married for business she used her maiden name . It was also her professional name . She came from a hairdressing family. Her father and 3 sisters and a brother plus the brothers 4 children became hairdressers. They were all competition enthusiasts winning cups and trophies galore, La Monde trophy, Clynol cup and many more that I cant think of them at the moment. She was brilliant at Marcel waving and won many competitions for that. so she was eager for me to learn. Our salon was on Noel St right on the corner opposite the swimming baths, it had leaded light windows very pretty. I can remember the names of many customers still after all these years. When I left ( after 11 yrs) I went to be manageress at Park salon at Canning circus. The previous manageress had been sacked so my entrance wasn't welcome. The one girl made my life hell for a while until she left.   I got on well with the others and am still in touch with them now. One of them has visited us here along with her husband and in time with their grown up daughters and their children. Much like we keep in touch with a lot of customers from our restaurants. Incidentally I got the sack just before I got married because I stood up for the staff. The bosses told me they were going to get cleaning staff in once a week. It never came off so when the boss started to bully the girls I stood my ground for them and ended up being sacked. I dont regret it for a minute. I had been happy with my previous employer because I felt like one of the family. I was taken to exhibitions in London and local shows ( hairdressing) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nonnaB 4,893 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Flying planes. a few years ago when my daughter was still married , her husband and a few friends bought a plane between them. When it was his turn to use it he used to fly really low at the front of our house so that the Grandchildren could wave and were obviously thrilled to bits to see a plane in flight at such close quarters. The plane was eventually disabled owing to one of the friends crashing it!!! Â 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
annswabey 599 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 CT  Eleanor's father died in 1940, when he was living at 14 Vivian Avenue.  The 1939 Register definitely says Pelham Road, but the next entry but one in the Register after Hamilton House is  10 Vivian Avenue, followed by 8, 6, 4, so could they have actually  lived in Vivian Avenue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,071 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, nonnaB said: Yes my boss was Miss Godfrey although she was married for business she used her maiden name . It was also her professional name . She came from a hairdressing family. Her father and 3 sisters and a brother plus the brothers 4 children became hairdressers. They were all competition enthusiasts winning cups and trophies galore, La Monde trophy, Clynol cup and many more that I cant think of them at the moment. She was brilliant at Marcel waving and won many competitions for that. so she was eager for me to learn. Our salon was on Noel St right on the corner opposite the swimming baths, it had leaded light windows very pretty. I can remember the names of many customers still after all these years. When I left ( after 11 yrs) I went to be manageress at Park salon at Canning circus. The previous manageress had been sacked so my entrance wasn't welcome. The one girl made my life hell for a while until she left.   I got on well with the others and am still in touch with them now. One of them has visited us here along with her husband and in time with their grown up daughters and their children. Much like we keep in touch with a lot of customers from our restaurants. Incidentally I got the sack just before I got married because I stood up for the staff. The bosses told me they were going to get cleaning staff in once a week. It never came off so when the boss started to bully the girls I stood my ground for them and ended up being sacked. I dont regret it for a minute. I had been happy with my previous employer because I felt like one of the family. I was taken to exhibitions in London and local shows ( hairdressing)  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,071 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 nonnaB smaii world when you worked at The Park salon i was just around the corner on Alfreton Rd  It was Barbra Chapmans, i did my training at her Sherwood Salon then after training I was moved to the Nottingham Salon. Wages !! can you remember the wage book in the staff room our wage's were set by the wages council the booklet told us what pay we should have and it also told you what holidays you had to have. The Hairdressing Comp's where great went down to Sherwood rooms a few time's to watch Lorea'l colour trophy and Goldwell cup. Gone are those days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 There looks to have been a fair amount of redevelopment on Vivian Avenue. The house in question may have been destroyed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denshaw 2,869 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 There was a Hamilton house on the corner of Hamilton/Hucknall road, in the eighties it was a police station. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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