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Been a funny sort of day here... Went to docs complaining my 'beer belly' is getting to be a bit of a bother, especially for a non drinker. Up on the couch open shirt, he takes one look and said  OK get up. It's not a beer belly it's a hernia. What are we going to do about it? Nothing! Go on Amazon he said and buy a support you're too old for a repair...  quite knocked me duck off it has.    noblue

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Brew I gave you a like only because I know how you feel, the GP telling you that you are to old. The best thing to do is remember the problem and get on and enjoy your life.

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That's rubbish, Brew!  A friend of mine is currently in the process of having a bilateral hernia repaired. As it's a very large hernia, the surgeon would not repair using keyhole techniques as he considered it too dangerous. It means two separate ops of the open and conventional type but, so far, all has gone well, via daycase surgery. My friend's GP also told him there was no need to do anything but he insisted on being referred to the hospital where the surgeon was not amused by the GP's attitude due to the risk of strangulation. The surgeon, who has an excellent reputation for 35 years of hernia repair without ever having a patient return for a second op, states that ALL hernias should be repaired.  Ignore your GP and insist on a hospital referral.

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I don't really remember how it works over there, but I'd be seeking a second opinion from someone better qualified.

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1 hour ago, philmayfield said:

Have you thought of private medicine Brew? A hernia repair is not that expensive.

 

It was a private consultant. His opinion is that it's Epigastric and though quite large it's not life threatening and merely  an inconvenience. Something call an Eastex (?) support will pull things back to where they should be and at my age it's not worth the risk of an op. Looking now for a second opinion. 

One thing I don't understand is how it happened although I must admit it's been like it for quite some time.

 

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Another friend had an epigastric hernia which had been growing slowly worse for years. Again, the GP told him it was not dangerous. The consultant disagreed strongly since the hernia was not reducible and therefore at risk of strangulation. Apparently, many men are born with these types of hernia but these days they are usually corrected in early infancy and not left to cause trouble later in life.

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Sorry to hear of your troubles Brew.  I think I'd be seeking a second opinion too.

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My day was OK.  As part of a garage clearout.. I took a pile of scrap metal down to the local 'Metal Recycling Centre'.  (Formerly known as 'Jonesy's Scrapper'.) on the outskirts of 'Sentellins'.

 

A couple of old car alternators, some used copper piping, radiator valves etc. An old car battery, several old aluminium cooking pans and some very classy brass bathroom taps and shower fittings my brother chucked out.. hardly used, after a burst pipe almost destroyed his house.  £37.50.  Not bad for a few minutes bagging up and a ten minute drive.  I just cannot throw non ferrous stuff in the bin. It's partly a value thing and partly environmental.  We shouldn't be dumping such stuff in landfill. I let the local council have cans, bottles and so on.. but they're not having my lead copper and brass... :angry:

 

Scrapyards have changed.  Back in the 60s I used to get any old non ferrous stuff I could find and take it to 'Hendo's' in Boowull to supplement my meagre pocket money. They never asked questions.. though I hasten to add my scrap was always honestly acquired.  I could even get 6d a pound for old wooly jumpers.These days, they take your name and address, want ID and pay you via card.  No cash.

 

The chap who took my scrap was the owner of the place.  Looked every inch the sort of stereotypical borderline villain, even had a 'white' eye.. either an extreme cataract, or maybe result of injury?  But he was as far from the old style surly type as possible.  Very pleasant, friendly etc., and it turned out he is the chap who bought and 'did up', my former local pub in the village.. turning it.. by common consent, into a beautiful place.  I commented that the last time I'd been there.. maybe ten years earlier, a very pleasant young lady had dealt with my 'account'.  Turns out she is his daughter.. now a School Teacher.

 

I like the bloke.  He's worked hard and no doubt made a lot of money.. but I don't begrudge it.

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Can someone tell me why in tennis, when a lower ranked player beats one of a higher rank they don't just beat them they "bundle them out"

Where did that expression come from?

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Hope your second opinion is more positive, Brew.  Good luck.

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20 minutes ago, Compo said:

Hope your second opinion is more positive, Brew.  Good luck.

 

Thanks, appointment made for next Thursday

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Pilsbury are not yeast breads though, they rely on self raising flour or bi carbs of soda.

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Had a  run out with my lady this morning to Matlock Bath..........weather miserable,,,and in Matlock Bath just a few elderly couples wondering about looking bored,,it got worse,, my favourite breakfast venue closed for re-decorating,,,,needed a wee badly and rushed to the Loo's only to find i needed 20p to enter,,,but just managed before i wet mesen....

                                            Beginning to think ''wish we'd stayed at home''' when we noticed a nice little ''eatery''' so we gave it a go.........Excellent food and even did ''espresso coffee''..........served by delightful ladies who were up for a chat and a bit of banter...when we finished the drizzle had ceased and the wind had dropped,,,so had a nice stroll along the old street,,where memories of forever came flooding back,,,walking arm in arm with ex girlfriends,,wearing me 'Winkle Pickers' and Sunglasses''......then years later taking the kids in rowing boat and in the chair lift......Matlock Bath was suddenly feeling good again.......To finish off we went in a novelty gift shop......suffice to say i'm now home sat in my front room with two new cushions covered in Cats,,,a new Cat ornament and a sign saying......''you make me feel like dancing'''.....................lovely morning........

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I feel your pain, Ben.

 

20p for a pee!  Daylight robbery!  Gets to a point where we have to plan our trips around the location of public conveniences. :Shock:

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Back from Docs who has confirmed. NHS say unless causing pain leave it alone, the pain and stress of an operation is to be avoided at my age unless absolutely necessary. So basically all they said is,  'that'll be £150 please now be a good boy and sod off'.    :(

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And what will they say if it strangulates (I sincerely hope it doesn't!) and you require emergency admission and surgery at many times the cost?

 

I know an excellent surgeon, hernia specialist, who almost certainly won't say nay, if you're interested. I'm told by a friend in the medical profession that he recently fixed a hernia for a 95 year old.  You're not that old are you?

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I believe an epigastric hernia rarely involves any loops of bowel protruding through the weakened muscle fibres ... although occasionally  it can!    This means strangulation is unlikely to happen with an epigastric hernia (as opposed to an inguinal hernia)  but obviously a doctor is the best person to advise on each individual case.  

Surgery isn't always the best option, when all the facts have been carefully considered ...

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7 hours ago, benjamin1945 said:

Had a  run out with my lady this morning to Matlock Bath

Ben, some memories in that post, I often used to participate in the raft race on the Derwent and also went to the illuminations.

The cable cars up the Heights of Abraham and the Great Masson Cavern

I don't know why but for some reason Matlock Bath reminded me of a seaside town without the sea

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2 hours ago, MargieH said:

I believe an epigastric hernia rarely involves any loops of bowel protruding through the weakened muscle fibres ... although occasionally  it can!    This means strangulation is unlikely to happen with an epigastric hernia (as opposed to an inguinal hernia)  but obviously a doctor is the best person to advise on each individual case.  

Surgery isn't always the best option, when all the facts have been carefully considered …

 

That's basically what they said Margie.... So a private consultant and my local GP agree, seems I just have to grin and bear it...

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3 hours ago, Oztalgian said:

Ben, some memories in that post, I often used to participate in the raft race on the Derwent and also went to the illuminations.

The cable cars up the Heights of Abraham and the Great Masson Cavern

I don't know why but for some reason Matlock Bath reminded me of a seaside town without the sea

 

Exactly right Ben.  All of the sideshows without the major attraction.  Still every so often I take that route between Nottm and here.. and everytime I wonder whether I should stop and have a proper look at what it is like 60+ years on from when I was a Wolf Cub on a day trip..

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1 hour ago, Brew said:

 

That's basically what they said Margie.... So a private consultant and my local GP agree, seems I just have to grin and bear it...

 

Hang in there Brew..

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4 hours ago, DJ360 said:

I wonder whether I should stop and have a proper look at what it is like 60+ years on from when I was a Wolf Cub on a day trip..

Of course you should! around Matlock, Matlock Bath and the Derbyshire Dales is one of the most beautiful and scenic areas of the UK. Lathkill Dale was one of my favourite walks and the industrial history around Cromford was world changing

From my experience visiting a few years ago and even though it was "off season" it was so crowded and hard to find the peace and quiet I was used to 50+ years ago.

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@Brew a kind of support may help .... certainly worth a try.  

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5 hours ago, DJ360 said:

 

Exactly right Ben.  All of the sideshows without the major attraction.  Still every so often I take that route between Nottm and here.. and everytime I wonder whether I should stop and have a proper look at what it is like 60+ years on from when I was a Wolf Cub on a day trip..

 

Even when i was flat out busy and working the Greater Manchester area i'd often take the route up the A6 ,,Such a beautiful journey,,certainly mainly came back that way..  I think living in Notts we are so lucky having the Derbyshire Dales right on our doorstep..When i was a single parent took the kids up the Dales most week-ends,,they still talk about those days being some of the best growing up,,,think we walked just about all of em,,,Monsall ,Lathkill and Millers Dale being among my favourites.,,,oh Dove dale and Thorpe Cloud took some beating as well.

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