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Entirely agree with you C.T. Electric windows etc., I  much prefer winding handles, at least the driver has control.

Same with the lights, what's wrong with a switch for goodness sake? Like all electric gizmos, they're alright when they're working.

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Oi  !!! Just think, if your out in the desert with a car door and window winder. If if gets too hot you can wind the window down. Can't do that if it's  electric.

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Ooops !

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I do like electric windows. I can control them all from the driver's door armrest on my Civic, which is handy. Apart from things such as seat belt warnings and reversing sensors, the Civic has few gadgets.  But.. they all still work after 16 years..which was not the case with assorted cars I had previously.  Door mirror heaters are handy as I always forget to clear them of frost when doing screens. remote mirror adustment too, though they dont fold in when you switch off.

My fave is the cruise control which can be really useful..if only to allow you to move your feet about a bit on long runs. to avoid cramp.  It works well even down to 30mph which is handy for avoiding 'speed creep'..

Oddly, for such a well built car, there are a couple of silly weaknesses. For e.g., the light which indicates sidelights/dips 'on' is all but invisible, day or night.  Also, cruise control master switch, and the combined trip meter/odometer/mpg readout button are all but unaccessible whilst driving. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Brew said:

It looks like it's a pig of  job because it is. The transmission tunnel cover has to come of as does the majority of the dashboard.

 

Not sure about the transmission tunnel, as it's FWD, but yes, a lot of stuff has to come off the dash.  Annoyingly, there's a compartment immediately below the radio console which is clearly just pushed in. If I could get that out it would allow access to the back of the Radio, but numerous efforts have failed and I don't want to break anything.  Maybe look at doing the job properly on a nice summer's day.

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1 hour ago, PeverilPeril said:

. Guess who got stuck when crossing the field? Not me. The Disco's have settings for all conditions but they were worthless in the field.

 

 

A car can have all the technology in the World and still get stuck if the driver doesn't know how to work with it.

 

One of my cars has Automatic headlights, they come on and off controlled by a light sensor.

Well they do if you put the switch to the automatic setting, otherwise they don't come on at all, ,,so they aren't truely automatic.

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You can buy a scanner at a reasonable price, I have one, the only problem is learning the codes. They also save you money. unscrupulous repair shops, and dealers fit that mould too!! Try to say this that or the other is faulty, when your scanner say's it's just one sensor!!

The socket to plug a scanner into is just under the steering column and to the right or left of it.

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My wife had MItsubishi Shoguns for many years. The only time we ever lost traction was at at a farm auction where the tyres just wouldn’t grip on a flat grassy field. It was most embarrassing having to be pushed along by a bunch of burly farmers and not a good advertisement for the marque,

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I have a double sloped hill, and anticipated it would be slippy from where I parked and was in 4wd low range, but just to slick. Maybe this year we will bet a truck load of gravel and make a proper driveway up the hill. Pity they don't fit dif locks like tractors have, amazing what a difference they make in very slick conditions.

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3 minutes ago, Ayupmeducks said:

You can buy a scanner at a reasonable price, I have one, the only problem is learning the codes. They also save you money. unscrupulous repair shops, and dealers fit that mould too!! Try to say this that or the other is faulty, when your scanner say's it's just one sensor!!

The socket to plug a scanner into is just under the steering column and to the right or left of it.

I’ve got an OBD (onboard diagnostic scanner). The codes are generally universal and you can find them online. You can buy a unit that plugs directly into your OBD socket which will interface with your mobile ‘phone if a suitable app is downloaded. I’ve never needed to the use the scanner on our own cars but I have helped a few other people out.

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Mines an OBD2 scanner, I can take the code from the trucks onboard computer and bring the scanner to my computer and down load the codes, bit easier than reading everything on the scanners small screen.

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Some of the gizmos are useful others are more or less gimmicks.

As the car gets to the end of the warranty I'll get a new one and someone else can worry about any expensive repairs.

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The scanners that the workshops use are much larger bits of kit. I imagine they can reset the computer systems rather than just diagnose or turn off the warning light. The trouble with main dealers is that you can’t get to speak with the guy working on the car but have to deal with someone in a suit behind a desk. Last year at Jaguar Lincoln they had a complete airhead of a girl who didn’t appear to know what day of the week it was!

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56 minutes ago, DJ360 said:

Not sure about the transmission tunnel,

 

Showing my age, it's not called the transmission tunnel now it's the center console. It has to come out to release the lower part of the dash.

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The most useless bit of kit are the electric seats. All have several motors, heaters, coolers etc but how often do you use them? Once the seat is adjusted how often are they moved? even the headrests are electric and to me it's just so much more weight to lug around and burn fuel.

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Bring back the Ford Popular, with wind down windows and wipers that never worked when going uphill.

8hp, side valve engine and starting 'handle. You knew where you were with them, provided you pulled in a layby 

to let the engine cool down, after about 45mins driving.:rolleyes:

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I had one of them.  Took us to the Lake district and back, to work every day.  Never a bit of trouble.  If it got too run down looking I just used to buy a can of blue Valspar.  slap it on with a brush, and she was good for another year or two. :biggrin:

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Same here L.L., a 1954 pop. The valves seriously needed sorting out. It used to use more oil than petrol. Used buy it for 5/9d a gallon from a little place on Nottingham road, (think it might have been recycled and filtered). Was my first car back in 1965.

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Mine was a '57.  Bought it for 15 quid from a workmate in '66.  Never overheated or burned oil though.  I learned a lot about cars from that one.  I'd never done an oil change before.  What I learned has saved me 100s over the years.  Sold her to a neighbor for 27 when I emigrated.   I'd owned her for five years.  She'd still be going strong if somebody took good care of her.

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Engine fault codes.  On my previous car if the fault light came on I could stop somewhere, operate the pedals and ignition in certain order and the engine fault lamp would flash in 4 sequences. These flashes represented the 4 digit fault code which could be deciphered from online. 

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