nonnaB 4,752 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Had a scare yesterday morning. In my car I heard such a loud bang. I knew I hadn’t bumped into anything but looked in my rear mirror and saw what the damage was. A man was walking towards almost on his knees with apologies. He hadn’t looked before opening his own car door and knocked my wing mirror to bits. Whilst we were discussing I saw the carabinieri coming slowly towards us so I stopped them and they took over. The result was he wanted to pay there and then but he said he had problems as he had a rented car. Then he just wanted to exchange phone numbers. The carabinieri wrote everything down and checked mine and his license and his documents. We ended up swapping phone numbers and he gave me his business card. The strange thing was that he was a rep that came to our house when we were looking for new Ch boilers for our son and daughter. I vaguely thought I’d seen him before but didn’t realize that it was him til I got home and read his card. The car is waiting to be repaired and the bill sent to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,337 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Re: exercise. It's nor a new thing for me. I was a regular swimmer, walker and weight trainer for years, but knee problems have messed with that. On top, the cardio lot were advising caution..especially re: swimming. But I've had the all clear for swimming and weights, subject to common sense, decent technique etc. I'm walking better since getting one knee fixed, but the other is getting worse and limits me to about 5000 steps max on a good day. According to one leaflet I've been given 'everybody' should walk 10000 steps per day. Blimey!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David sheridan 157 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 9 hours ago, Oztalgian said: David, change to a Party Five and then up the ante to a Party Seven and really develop some muscles. Wow remember them party 7,s in the 1970s ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 9,568 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Whoops. Forgot it was Saturday. Got nabbed by the Jehovah's Witnesses this morning. I listened politely to their script then gave them a lecture on Buddhist philosophy. As expected, their eyes glazed over as the brainwashing kicked in. Don't listen, don't listen!!! Basically, said I, you're looking at God right now and so am I. If you look at the cat in the window, you're still looking at God and that earthworm on the path is also God. We are all the same. No difference. They scuttled off to bother someone else. One day, they might wake up? Bothering people on a Saturday morning gives them something to do, I suppose... otherwise they might start robbing banks (but not blood banks, of course). 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 9,939 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, Jill Sparrow said: Got nabbed by the Jehovah's Witnesses this morning. Whenever the subject comes up I always wonder if Jehovah's Witnesses have ever converted anyone, anywhere at any time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,153 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Chuffed with myself this morning . Managed to get into 98th position in the virtual team challenge - a global event run by Concept2, the gym equipment manufacturer. Been grinding out the kilometres every day to get into the first 100. Not bad considering that there are 10,141 entries 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 4,263 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Do you get a medal at the end of it Terry? Or perhaps an iron lung. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katyjay 4,983 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Cliff Ton said: Whenever the subject comes up I always wonder if Jehovah's Witnesses have ever converted anyone, anywhere at any time. There's a joke about that. 2 Jehovah Witnesses rang a door bell, the old fella opens the door to them. "Good morning, we want to talk to you about our religion " one says. Short on visitors, the old man welcomes them inside. He sits them down on the settee, sits opposite them and says, "OK, what do you want to tell me?" They reply, "We don't know. We've never got this far before!" 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,336 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Cliff Ton said: Whenever the subject comes up I always wonder if Jehovah's Witnesses have ever converted anyone, anywhere at any time. They must do or they would just die out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 9,939 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Speaking from admittedly very limited experience of the subject............I don't think they actually convert any new customers, the continuity is achieved within families. Newcomers are children of existing believers; it doesn't expand outside those who are already there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
siddha 795 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Interesting I would have thought it a declining population as children do not always follow the religion of their parents. I think the men and women of the faith can exert great pressure on those who do not follow the path determined for them by the elders. A great film to watch that is about being "disfellowshipped" by the JW's.............. Apostacy. I recommend it as a good but discomforting watch. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,336 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Agree with both the above posts. Had some experience with it over the years. I am not and never have been JW. Disfellowshipping is a powerful weapon against any who dare to disagree. Shunning by closest family has to be potentially emotionally devastating. Certainly not Biblical. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 9,568 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Not very Christian, either! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,336 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 They are not a Christian group no matter what they may say. They have their own version of the Bible in which their translators took some diabolical liberties. They are not as biblically literate as they pretend. Just a few verses twisted to fit their various heresies. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 5,345 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Various Christian groups put their own interpretation on the Bible. Transubstantiation is a significant example. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,336 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Main difference is we don't shun those who may differ with us on doctrines that are not central to the faith. Eg. dress codes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
siddha 795 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 What history does tell us is that unhappily religion appears to be one of the greatest reasons for humans to slaughter one another never mind disfellowshipping or transubstantiation. Though recently I have noticed an increasing interest in those words that begin with Trans....... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,153 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Sorry to disagree siddha - but it is ABUSE of religion that is a reason for us slaughtering one another. Using religion as a tool for power. Religion itself is a necessary ingredient in life for most. Although I am an agnostic, my Christian upbringing is still an integral part of my being. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,336 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Haven't seen a post here I really disagree with. Some crazy fanatics do, unfortunately use it as an excuse to bump off those they don't like. I can honestly say I"ve never met a genuine Baptist (my crowd) who wanted to murder anybody. We just hold 'em down for a long time and drown 'em. On that positive note I'll bow out of this interesting exchange 'cus it is just supposed to be about our day. I'm busy barking, cough and cold. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
siddha 795 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 14 hours ago, PeverilPeril said: but it is ABUSE of religion that is a reason for us slaughtering one another. OK I see that as a helpful way to describe the horrors of the last few centuries that have been justified by one religion or another. I am obviously not certain of this; but I suspect that those that have killed and hurt other in the name of their particular belief system would not recognise the idea that they are abusing their religion. Anyway forgive my sloppy use of language. The more I think about this then I see it is probably impossible to separate out religious from economic and political motives in such a way that religious intentions can be understood to be without violence. Loppylugs is right this thread is "How's the day" and here its sunny and bright with a good frost that's frozen the water my hens (and wild birds too) need so off to see what I can do to improve things for them. The plans for the day include pruning of apple trees and mending a broken music stand. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha 162 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 To me the so-called holy bible is merely a collection of myths and contributions from those who included their own particular thoughts and interpretations many years or centuries after the particular event as the truth, of which was merely of significant interest to them. For example, feeding the five thousand with a few fish and loaves of bread went way beyond sensible comprehension. With all the other impossible miracles that have supposedly happened should these stories be taken as what actually happened or just the dreaming of a few of the excessively uncompromising? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 5,345 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 I've got a first edition of the Bible, personally signed by Jesus Christ! I bought it from a book shop in Golder's Green. Hymie the manager assured me it was Kosher. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 4,263 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Funny that Phil., it were the same bloke who sold me a George 3rd record player. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
siddha 795 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Today I shall be mostly coming to Bulwell in Nottingham ; many many years since I have been there. Then on to Leicester ........... feel like a travelling salesman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 15,477 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Enjoy Bulwell Siddha.........if you fancy breakfast or even just a coffee....Jerholme's on main street is excellent........no market today but Bulwell is always good........ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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