carni 10,094 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Well, you learn something every day. Jonab, very interesting post, it got our inquisitive juices flowing so I just Googled St Patrick. Thought this was an interesting site. He could even be Welsh according to this account? https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofWales/St-Patrick-The-most-celebrated-Welshman-in-America/ Hope the sun shines for you RR. PS, Will be flying the flag tomorrow. Must get the board out today, it could do with ironing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 hours ago, FLY2 said: Exactly jonab. The media, especially the totally left wing biased BBC I don't think it's that simple. Politically, I see the BBC as totally right wing biased. Practically every one of their political journalists/commentators is a known Conservative party supporter, member, former candidate etc. This definitely applies to Norman Smith, Laura Kuenssberg, Nick Robinson, Evan Davis, Andrew Neil and many others. That is of course a political thing which we really shouldn't be getting into here. Equally oddly, I think it is arguable that in terms of culture, rather than politics, the BBC generally displays a liberal, inclusive bias. You can see that as left wing I suppose. It's an odd mix. Personally, I think it's time the ordinary silent majority of ordinary British citizens, re-claimed the flag of St George from the fascists, racists and bully boys who seem to have claimed it for themselves. https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/St-George-Patron-Saint-of-England/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, radfordred said: Cracking Ska band on at 3pm tomorrow in The Royal Children & guess who`s got the day off? ......... me Me too red ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Whilst I'm not remotely religious, I have no problem with the idea of a Patron Saint or similar which folk can look to for inspiration and comfort when required. But you can tell the story of St George like this.. There was this ethnically Greek chap who was born in Israel and working as a bodyguard for the Emperor Diocletian of Rome. At the time Rome had occupied and suppressed the people of England for around 300 years. So when this Greek/Israeli/Roman chap wouldn't renounce his Christian faith, Diocletian had him tortured and killed. And naturally, the people of England, who would continue to be occupied by Rome for a further 200 years, adopted George as their Patron Saint.... The Scots seem to have taken their time deciding, but eventually settled on St Andrew, born in Galilee, who they share with lots of other countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle Meanwhile, St Patrick of Ireland, who was half Roman and born around the same time as George, but in Roman Britain possibly in Scotland or Wales, but not Ireland, was adopted by the Irish. https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/history-of-st-patrick.html A couple of hundred years later.. the Welsh decided to break with tradition and actually adopt a Welsh bloke as their Patron Saint.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_David Col 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Col, it's not the BBC reporters that I find biased. It's the whole entity of management from the very top. If it's not them, then lower management / production staff that are the culprits. Having said that, I NEVER watch ITV news, as it just seems so amateurish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,427 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Don't watch much of any news any more. It always seems to be propaganda of one kind or another and attacks on our president. Don't misunderstand me. I'm not a great Don Trump supporter and I don't want to get political. I wasn't a Clinton supporter either. I do believe in respect for the office though. I try to get my news. Selectively from the Internet. You have to be careful there too. I have pretty much reached the point where I no longer know who is telling the truth and who is lying. It was probably always like that, but now it just seems downright blatant. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,409 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 If you're going to tell a lie, make it a big one. Make it so big the people will think it can't possibly be a lie, and if it all goes pear shaped make sure you have someone else to take the blame. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Looks like Morrisons are celebrating St Georges Day. (About time someone did) Chris has just got back from ours and every one is being given a red rose to celebrate the day with them.. I asked him why he didn't keep popping back in, I could have had a lovely bunch for nowt in the end. PS. When he walked in with the rose and I went all gooey and dewy eyed, he did confess that he hadn't bought it. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted April 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 And did those feet in ancient times walk upon Englands mountains green. Happy St.Georges Day - That's what I'm talking about x 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 That’s the hymn to which the answer to every question is NO! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Compo 10,328 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 St Patrick's flag = fine St Andrew's flag = fine St David's flag = fine St George's flag = Racist. Happy st George's Day to all you racists out there! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 I can easily see the PC brigade banning St George's day if we let em ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gem 1,430 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 My daughter was in Newcastle today, the Wetherspoon's she went into for lunch had nothing to indicate that it was anything but a normal day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Ah Wetherspoon's Monday Club ! Can't beat it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted April 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Few from today sorry if the waving of the flag offends anyone. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gem 1,430 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, catfan said: Ah Wetherspoon's Monday Club ! Can't beat it. Full of students......... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,304 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 38 minutes ago, radfordred said: sorry if the waving of the flag offends anyone. Cry, God for Harry*, England and St George! * Henry V, not Diana's offspring! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 45 minutes ago, Gem said: Full of students......... Give me a pub full of students anytime Gem rather than screaming uncontrolled brats whose gormless looking parents sit looking with vacant expressions & say nowt. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Compo 10,328 Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 Living in Scotland one has to be careful of shouting about one's nationality, so instead fo flying a St.George flag I planted an entire hedgerow of Rosa rugosa - alternating the bushes: two red flowering and two white flowering, for 20 yards. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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