Trinity Square Over The Years


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That's been noticed before by several people. We might start introducing a bit of fake news to see what happens.

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Hi Alexanda, Welcome to Nottstalgia. We look forward to reading your posts, any new stories about Nottingham are always much appreciated, Many people on NS remember Trinity Square and will always enjoy any new information.

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Hi and thanks for the warm welcome if you have any questions about trinity square indeed most of the town centre from around 1980 until 1995 Ill have a dig around in the old gray cells I may have the answer.

couple of little know facts about trinity square from the old days

Under the carpark there was on the lower floor private parking for monthly paid members I remmber one of the people who parked next to my fathers car was the events manager for the theatre royal he drove an old rolls royce he walked with a caine.

Also the top end of the carpark opposite the old evening post buildng you may have noticed steps leading down underground just up from the 3 phone boxs that were there down those steps was a door you would most likely think they were for car park attendents quaters or a janitor hehe nope.

Down those steps were in fact the control room for the town centre traffic lights street lighting and the early cctv cameras

Oh one last thing the carpark was built on top of the church holy trinty it was called. I do not believe in ghost or gouls or hocus pocus stuff but and this is only time I have experienced something like this I remmeber i was upstairs in the moulin rouge with some freinds and 2 of the staff who were boerd and were waiting till late to catch a lift home there was cctc upstairs so you could see downstairs we all heard foot steps exactly like someone coming up the stairs we all new that sound could not mistake it for anything else.  So one of my freinds opened the door expecting too see either my father or one of the staff coming up as it was late and was past closing time so just cleaning and prep for next day was being done.

I swear it was loud and clear foot steps even the same shaking of the old stairs through the walls.

No one was there we were all freaked out thinking wtf so we wsitched the tv over to get the cctv feed eveyone was down stairs busy cleaning and as it was 2 flights of stairs up to the 1st floor no way anyone could have sneaked back down so fast. I will never forget that night spooky.

 

 

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While I am at it Nottingham centre is mostly where I grew up.

I new most of the local characters I miss the sound of oh I forgot his name he used to sell Evning post paper outside the Victoria centre could not mistake his voice he was a short guy elderly about 70+ I think he was at least 80 when he dissapeard I remmeber his call (Post evening Post he used to shout he would come into the Moulin Rouge to count his takings funny chap would not let anyone near his money he would go mad if you went near him :)

Another chracter i remember there was a tramp he was fat bald on top with long blondish matted hair and the usual smell.

I asked about him as he was very well know apperently he was a married a teacher his wife left him and he just went downhill well he died cant remmeber exactly when but I heard from a policeman who told my father when he died he had around 800 000 in the bank.

There was a guy who you may have seen walking around the town inn the 1980s in the town  centre with a ghetto blaster on his shoulder always full volume his name was Mario.

I used to know a lot of door men so never paid to get into certain clubs hehe.

ok inportant people from Nottingham I have met George Atkins he used to own the casino opposite the the dog and bear pub.

He sold it to a greek  Reo Stakis who was the richest man in the UK at that time  he also owned Stakis victoria hotel the one that is ajoined to the victoria centre on milton street  he was a freind of my fathers

Another person who was a freind of my fathers was Frank Sytner who owns BMW franchise Sytner.

I remember a very nice chap Mr Kirk who was part of the town centre gang of wealthy men who used to eat in the MoulinRouge when it was a proper resturant there would be  Frank Sytner , Gordan who used to own Gordan motor cars near where Kfc burger king is now  outskirts of townand  Mr kirk who owned one of the largest lace factorys in the lace market cant remember the others names one was a Judge and there was Dennis who was the manager at one of the local paint wallpaper shops.

I remember when i was young a lot of famous people used to eat there from the theatre royal.I was there one day and jhon Pertwee was eating near the window where there chip friers are now was a long bench lounge seating. there was a curtain he was eating and some young girls were outside my father went out to ask them to move on and stop staring at cutomers they told him they wanted Dr who`s autograph he had no idea it was him was funny as you could not miss his hair lol.

I myself have served fish an d chips to Dirty den from eastenders he used to come in when he was filming eastenders.

 

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On 3/23/2009 at 10:43 AM, poohbear said:

I remember the church...and the Mechanics Institute where I used to play snooker.Anyone remember Bob Patchett the tailor on the town side of the square?...Cracking name for a tailor eh??

I remember Bob Patchett as it was just a couple of doors up from the Moulin Rouge My father had a few suits tailored by him he used to eat sometimes  in the Moulin Rouge

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Hi from what I remember not sure exactly memory not so great nowadys hehe . Yes I think bob patcett became the opticians the frontage was alot different when it was bobs. Bobs son I think he may still be running his fathers buisness they moved to chappel bar I think but that was 2004 if I remember rightly not sure if he is still there I do remember my father telling me it was bob`s son and it was a tailors I think it was chappel bar or somewhere near there.

 

As for the amusement arcade From what i think I remember my father told me it was either a cafe or small resturant but I think he said cafe. My father  wanted to buy it, to expand the Moulin Rouge as its not very big its long but narrow building but the then owner of the Moulin Rouge Andrew Petsas poured water over the idea so it was empty for a short while.

Then an American amusment owner I forgot his name ill update when I remember his name bought it as part of his global empire.

The day it opened it was opened by Diana Dors the actress.who cut the ribbon. She then came into the Moulin Rouge for unschedueld dinner she signed a book she was selling I still have it. :)

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If I remember right Bob Patchett's shop had maxim on the signage that read,

The sense of being well dressed gives one a feeling of inner tranquillity.

I may have sense/feeling the wrong way around,does anyone remember this? I have always found this maxim to be true.

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I hate getting older especially with my experince of the town centre pitty I cant upload my brain directly I am sure people would find The info I have very interesting .lol. No thats not an offer for disection thanks hehe. I just remembed the name of the guy who opened the amusement arcade in Trinity square

(Barry Nobel) Amusments.

My father met him in the casino a few times where all the wealthy gambels hung out was near the Fountain pub on Bridelsmith gate. as that was the only legal (yes there were ilegal card games gambeling hehe) casino in the city in the 1980's  before the other 2 casinos in Nottingham opened. 1 is on maid marrion way it was opened by Reo Stakis he also owend the one on Bridelsmith gate its closed down now I think other one is Alea casino on upper Parliment street. but I dont think Reo Stakis was involved with that one I think its a diffrent company anyway Reo Stakis died in 2001 My father was upset as he knew Reo Stakis very well.  From what I remember being told Barry Nobel was a ruthless buisness man very rude and full of himself made millions opening amusment arcades with the focus on gambeling machines not gameing machines  Iam sure that is 100% correct knew I had it in the old gray cells some where :)

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On 9/22/2016 at 5:43 PM, GJK said:

If I remember right Bob Patchett's shop had maxim on the signage that read,

The sense of being well dressed gives one a feeling of inner tranquillity.

I may have sense/feeling the wrong way around,does anyone remember this? I have always found this maxim to be true.

You would think I would remember his sign I rememeber it was green with I think gold writing I saw it hundreds of times but cant remember exactly just that the windows were wooden and it was dark inside and smelled like a proper tailors my father had 3/4 suits made by Bob Patchett.

Most of the local buisness men and judges barristers and offcials went there during the 1970's and 1980's.

I really do miss the times and the old Nottingham I was very lucky and privalidged to have been a part of the town centre and to have met so many of the city centre people that few even knew existed its now more of a metropolis now :(

 

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On 29 August 2016 at 8:13 AM, Alexanda said:

 

ok inportant people from Nottingham I have met George Atkins he used to own the casino opposite the the dog and bear pub.

 

Have they found anything he did not own in Nottingham? 

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On 10/14/2016 at 10:15 AM, radfordred said:

 

Have they found anything he did not own in Nottingham? 

lol not really hehe

If I remember the story of how he became rich I think he started with either a chip shop or renting gambleing machines to buisness like chip shops pubs sorry iam trying to remember what i was told about George Atkins was 30 years ago i was told about him from my father who knew him well.

I think he then went into property buying and leasing out comercial property to other buisness men.

I do remember he did own the casino before he sold it to Reo Stakis that I rememeber 100%

If I remember correctly I heard he owned some or all the land around  Nottingham railway station  not sure how he acquired it but If I remember he owns the land and some is  leased to Nottingham railway not 100% sure if that info is correct but I know he has some interest in it.

 

this should help seems accurate http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/BusinessRichList/article164284.ece

Says he started with a betting shop but I am sure there is more to it than that shall we say i used to know a lot of card games that used to go on around the city not strictly kosha :) Not that i am implying he was involved :)

There are other who I have met who are not that far behind him far as wealth is concerned.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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#65. Alexanda, a word of warning  ..... Geo. Akins Snr is still alive, be careful what you say, whether assumptions or fact.  Nottstalgia can be read by anyone in the World.  I've been guilty of mentioning a   living person's name on here and got a dressing down for my 'innocent' comment. 

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Thanks yes you are correct that is why I did say i was not  implying he was involved in any card games

and I did say  "I myself" used to know of card games that went on around Nottingham which if you put 2+2 together = customers for legalised gambeling establishments

(Not that i am implying he was involved)

I could have put it better

I shall clarify I ment that he built legal licensed premises where before there wasnt any so people could gamble legally

I never implyed he was runing ilegal gambleing.

 

 

 

 

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On ‎20‎/‎09‎/‎2016 at 6:43 AM, Alexanda said:

Hi from what I remember not sure exactly memory not so great nowadys hehe . Yes I think bob patcett became the opticians the frontage was alot different when it was bobs. Bobs son I think he may still be running his fathers buisness they moved to chappel bar I think but that was 2004 if I remember rightly not sure if he is still there I do remember my father telling me it was bob`s son and it was a tailors I think it was chappel bar or somewhere near there.

 

As for the amusement arcade From what i think I remember my father told me it was either a cafe or small resturant but I think he said cafe. My father  wanted to buy it, to expand the Moulin Rouge as its not very big its long but narrow building but the then owner of the Moulin Rouge Andrew Petsas poured water over the idea so it was empty for a short while.

Then an American amusment owner I forgot his name ill update when I remember his name bought it as part of his global empire.

The day it opened it was opened by Diana Dors the actress.who cut the ribbon. She then came into the Moulin Rouge for unschedueld dinner she signed a book she was selling I still have it. :)

Hello Alexandra many thanks for sharing your memory of Diana Dors. I run the project "Re-Introducing Diana Dors" and always enjoy hearing the stories of Diana Dors many visit's to Nottingham. I've a few signed items relating to her opening Barry Noble's amusement arcades, aswell as a photograph of her opening an amusement arcade in Clifton circa 1979.

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Another great photo, I can remember this very well as I used to catch the number 28 from the far side of the square every day, but I just cannot remember if there were toilets there. It looks as if there was as they are the same design as others in Nottingham.

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Is that as late as '63? I was full time at the Burton Street Tech '62 - '64 and I'm pretty sure that the conversion Trinity Square to a modern monstrosity was complete by that time.

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On 18/09/2016 at 11:02 PM, Alexanda said:

I remember Bob Patchett as it was just a couple of doors up from the Moulin Rouge My father had a few suits tailored by him he used to eat sometimes  in the Moulin Rouge

I had a suit made by Bob Patchett. I was given a suit length of mohair suit* fabric (I was in the textile trade at the time) and I took it to Patchett to be made up. Tiny little shop and I remember there were two working there - one with only one arm. I don't know how but he did all the measuring.

That suit was the best one I have ever had and it served me well for a very long time.

 

*Not the hairy, fluffy knitted stuff that most people associate with mohair.

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Mention of Herberts. I am still trying to find a picture or something of my Rover when John Herbert had it. I can imagine a picture of it parked on Trinity Square somewhere. Here it is at a Wollaton Park Autokarna before I had it.  I remember his shop well when it was on Trinity Square. It is now on Wheeler Gate.

 

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5 minutes ago, IAN123. said:

Did we search before Malcolm..we found one ages ago...but wrong Rover.. it was a cyclops..which your beauty ain't!

Beauty mine isn't at the moment. It is waiting for an engine rebuild which it will get this year. It had a heavy bang on its o/s back wing while John Herbert had it and it was never properly repaired. Jack Hopewell at West Bridgford were responsible for the repairs and they did one god almighty bodge up! And charged him for it.

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