DJ360 6,721 Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 Here's one that made a ripple in UK the charts in March 1964... and was still a popular dance tune years later when I was a fab DJ. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 And what I am actually ..really listening to now.. courtesy of my Innuos Streamer ...at the moment..is.. It's deeply unfashionable now.. but it is still a brilliant album.. and the title song is epic.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSR 286 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 don't get what you are saying HSR Cant say, who's recollection, I don't read Wiki, To attribute Pill Box, Just Like women, & Rolling stone to being about Edie, is, the best assumption I can come to... Didn't Joe Boyd say the frst drum beat of 'Rolling Stone' was like a gavel coming down? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,271 Posted May 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Yes, Dire Straits, Mark Knopfler, here he is with another guitar legend performing Going Home. Hank now lives in Perth West Australia. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,139 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Don't think they made a bad song...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Here's another one that skimmed the charts in 1966. Liverpool band operating as part of the Joe Meek stable, with their version of the Drifters 1961 song 'Please Stay' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 19 hours ago, HSR said: don't get what you are saying HSR Cant say, who's recollection, I don't read Wiki, To attribute Pill Box, Just Like women, & Rolling stone to being about Edie, is, the best assumption I can come to... Didn't Joe Boyd say the frst drum beat of 'Rolling Stone' was like a gavel coming down? Maybe you should read the Wiki link.. it's not contagious. But if you really can't.. plenty to go at here. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Dylan+Songs+inspired+by+Edie+Sedgewick&ia=web I think it's pretty clear Pill Box Hat and Just Like a Woman are Sedgewick inspired. Like a Rolling Stone is a bit more problematic.. not least because I once read that Dylan had asked 'Has it never occurred to you that I was talking about myself?" On the back of that.. one commentator has constructed a whole theory that Dylan was speculating on his loss of popularity and influence after 'going electric'.. but I'm pretty sure that is stretching a point.. and it also completely fails to explain the lyrics: "Aw, you've gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely But ya know ya only used to get juiced in it Nobody's ever taught ya how to live out on the street And now you’re gonna have to get used to it." Which pretty much exactly detail Edie's life before she broke away from her family and got involved with Warhol. I'm not convinced by Dylan's 'Talking about myself' explanation.. but if he said it after Edie died.. it might be his way of distancing himself from his sarcastic treatment of her. I also reckon that Dylan at the time was struggling with his own fame and sick of being constantly asked to justify and explain every word.. which led him to lash out sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Tonight I'm listening to The Drifters. Their hit album "I'll Take You Where the Music's Playing" was a high spot. There's not a bad song on it.. but these two are sequenced on side 1 and have always been favourites. Johnny Moore was singing at his peerless peak: Class! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Well.. if nobody else is playing.... I only have one Linda Ronstadt album but it contains my two favourite songs by her: First..written by Mike Nesmith of Monkey's fame. Nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSR 286 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 5/3/2021 at 12:19 AM, DJ360 said: I think it's pretty clear Pill Box Hat and Just Like a Woman are Sedgewick inspired ??..I can only assume you had a one on one with his Bob? was it in a helicopter? Thanks for the inspiration.. On a Dylan phase.Nashville Skyline and Wesley Harding at the mo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 6 hours ago, HSR said: ??..I can only assume you had a one on one with his Bob? I'm just a very perceptive person. 6 hours ago, HSR said: was it in a helicopter? Ya lost me... again... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 For tonight's entertainment.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,271 Posted May 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Some long forgotten train songs there DJ360 Freight train, freight train, run so fast. Bee-dee-dee-dee-bom-bom to San Fernando. Britain's skiffle king Lonnie Donegan did some great versions of classic American railroad songs. Here's one https://youtu.be/4jlE_rfw_14 The Wabash Cannonball. The video link thingy appears not to be working for me today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Yes.. I had to have a couple of goes to get videos to work. I love the skiffle fashions worn by Chas McDevitt's lads.. Baseball Boots and trousers with a waistline just below the arm pits. . I can't resist putting up this video of Elizabeth Cotton..who wrote Freight Train 'sometime between 1906 and 1912'. Her was was gone by this time, but her guitar style is vry recognisable as similar to that used by Joan Baez and others. There's a lot more on Youtube if you dig around. She recorded a lot of stuff in the 1950s etc...sometimes with younger relatives doing vocals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 I got my first guitar during the skiffle era. I was a great fan of Lonnie Donegan and learnt all of his stuff. I even built a bass using a tea chest and a broom handle, I painted it black and cut f-holes. It looked really good. My guitar tuition was from Bert Weedon’s ‘Play in a day’ tutor. A misnomer if ever there was one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,271 Posted May 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 I sort of learned to play my first guitar, a red Watkins Rapier, using Play in a Day Did you have a Lagerphone to go with your tea chest bass? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 I had to look up Largerphone. Never heard of one! My first guitar was a Spanish style followed by a Hofner Congress which I electrified. I still have that. It was many years before I acquired a Fender Stratocaster - cherry red of course. I also have a Yamaha 12 string, a folk guitar, a 5 string banjo and a ukulele. I can’t play any of them since I chopped a finger off. During lockdown I bought an electronic keyboard which looks like the flight deck of a 747. I’ve tried it once thinking I could become a piano virtuoso overnight but became downhearted when I discovered that would never happen. At least our sun lounge is now known as the music room! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,134 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Phil, in all seriousness, do you think that one would need an ear for music? I would have loved to be able to play some sort of instrument, to be able to entertain or personal pleasure would be great. To be able to sit and strum a guitar or play a mouth organ, but I've no idea, so make do with painting. Was useless at music at school. My elder brother could play the piano and he couldn't read a note. He could listen to a piece, have a couple of practice goes and then play it. (Don't know where he learned it from, it was just a gift). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 I got an ‘O’ level in art very many years ago. I’ve never done anything remotely ‘arty’ ever since. I would like to have another go but I doubt I’d have the patience and wouldn’t know where to start. I was never particularly musical. I could read music a bit but not quickly enough to play a tune from it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,304 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Musical ability tends to run in families, as can artistic ability. My mother's family members were all musical. Her father and both his sisters played the piano but could not read a note of written music. My mother had music lessons as a child from a Miss Bostock who lived on Brushfield Street. She took a couple of exams but as she grew older, wasn't willing to put in the practice. I played by ear from such an early age that, like reading, I can't remember a time when I didn't do it. We had my mother's piano and the house was always full of music. All of us sang, both in amateur choirs and as soloists. I didn't begin formal music lessons until I was 11. It was necessary to have Royal Academy of Music, Associated Board grade V theory under one's belt before starting the two year course of study for what was then GCE O level music. I eventually worked through all 8 theory grades and all 8 practical grades. I had started studying for the LRAM but my teacher died and I didn't persevere with it. I once taught a 5 year old who could draw fully articulated figures and, according to his parents, used to get up at 5am so he could spend more time drawing. That child was very gifted. His parents were nonplussed by his ability as no one in either family was artistic. The child, as is often the case with gifted children, was mature beyond his years and not like a child at all. He was a joy to teach! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,408 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Many of us, myself included, would love to play music but don't really have the 'love' required. Merely being interested is not enough, you need a modicum of talent and the drive to put in the countless hours necessary to reach any sort of competency. The various 'play in a day' books worked you did play in a day. they did not promise you would play well. Like Eric said the notes were not always in the right order! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,304 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 As with anything else, unless you're born with genius as some undoubtedly are, you only get out what you put in. Hours of practice, scales, arpeggios, exercises...! Most people can't spare the time/aren't sufficiently dedicated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,134 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Or simply, can't be arsed ! Too much happening in their lives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just an addition to the superb video of Elizabeth Cotton's 'Shake Sugaree' above Quote Shake Sugaree in this 1966 recording was sung by Brenda Evans, Elizabeth's grand daughter. Elizabeth was 73 at this point. Credits by Smithsonian Folkways are given in another Youtube by the same name. Brenda was about 12 years old when the recording was made What an astonishing talent and voice for a 12 year old! "Have a little song Won't take long Sing it right Once or twice Oh, lordy me Didn't I shake sugaree? Everything I got is done and pawned Everything I got is done and pawned Pawn my watch Pawn my chain Pawn everything that was in my name Oh, lordy me Didn't I shake sugaree? Everything I got is done and pawned Everything I got is done and pawned Pawn by buggy Horse and cart Pawn everything that was on my lot Oh, lordy me Didn't I shake sugaree? Everything I got is done and pawned Everything I got is done and pawned" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,721 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Moving on.. Elmore James was well known as a bluesman from the 1930s.. although he also spent time as a DJ, Radio repairer etc.. since talent was no guarantee of an income for 'Black Folks' back in the Land of the Free. Some credit Elmore with popularising (or even inventing) 'slide' guitar. Eitherway many of his classic recordings have been covered by numerous later bands.and Jeremy Spencer of Peter Green's Original Fleetwood Mac did little else.. In the 60's I found an album called 'The Late Fantastically Great Elmore James' in a bargain bin. I paid 24 shillings for it, still have it... and from which.. Well.. it makes a nice change.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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