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Finally got around to Vol. 1 of Beatles at the BBC. ( Vinyl....DeAgostini Series) Played all 3 discs in succession and it kept my attention all through. I heard much of this on AM radio at the time and loved it. Also, a good friend (sadly deceased) recorded much of it on a Grundig TK5. One song I remember Bob playing back to me in his living room above a shop on Andover Rd. Bestwood Est., was 'Clarabella' It was only a year or so back that I discovered it was a song from the Jodimars.. a rebel offshoot of Bill Haley's band.

I was prepared for a dose of nostalgia. I wasn't so prepared for the superb job the Beatles did of so many songs, their own, and many from their major influences such as Holly, Little Richard, Ray Charles et.al. Vocals in particular hold their own with anything before or since.
Vol.2 ASAP.

 

 

 

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'Suddenly There's a Valley'  is a song title that kept cropping up in my explorations, but it wasn't one I remembered.  A bit of checking and it's one of those early 50s songs, from a special period when ballads ruled, and were sung properly by talented people who didn't need 'autotune', backed by orchestras and arrangers who knew their craft.  I'm not knocking what came after.. in fact I loved it all.. but we shouldn't forget these great artists.

 

 

Here's one I did remember from the radio in 50s..

 

This one, by the gorgeous Kitty Kallen, remains one of my all time favourites.  She was a dance band singer before this.. with Harry James' band I think.

 

 

Jane Morgan.  French American I think.  Massive hit in 1958.

 

Reminds me so much of open fields, evening sun streaming through the living room window, and a world with few cares......

Nottstalgia. :)

 

 

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An evocative choice Col, I remember them all. My parents didn't have a TV in our house until about 1967. But we always had a good radio (Murphy 146 being the latest) which was always on whenever someone was awake in the house. In those days I learned by much listening how and why music 'works'. It seems to me there was such a wide variety of music broadcast in the 50s (which was mainly on BBC) the memory of which remains with me to this day. Wayward Wind and Little Things are amongst those instant recalled memories. 

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Loved listening to 'Little things mean a lot' and 'The day that the rains came down'.  Even Paul started singing to the latter but, like me, he didn't know all the words...

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Interestng radio Willow.  Can't quite work out how much is 'style' and how much is practical audio,  The single speaker viewed from the front looks like its on an open 'panel'. or 'baffle' which is about the simplest way to mount a speaker.  The idea is to prevent sound waves from the back of the speaker cone cancelling those from the front by separating them.  If not mounted somehow, a speaker drive unit without some sort of mountng or enclosure is very inefficient.  Theoretically the baffle should be infinite in size but the most common practical application of that is a sealed box.  I'd love to see round the back to see if the rear of the speaker cone is open to air, or closed in.

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Thank you for your comments Col. We acquired this radio new when I was about 5 or 6 (1949 ish) so didn't appreciate the finer points of audio reproduction then. But as you related the ideal is to isolate front from back. Still listening to music on it in 1959/60 it was a good quality general listening radio, 10" speaker. For instance I can remember 'Jailhouse Rock'  when it was first broadcast and the opening bars which included a raunchy bass walk-up (pitched about E2 I think) sounded impressively rounded, smooth and even; that's one feature I remember in my early audio learning curve but that's all that was required of a radio those days, no sub fundamentals, I can't remember those physical notes from a 16'/32' organ pipe music. Bearing in mind that it was Long Wave and am medium wave, it was top-end which was weak compared with later FM.

I understand Murphy experimented with  infinite baffles but didn't include them in this level (£28/19s/9d) of domestic  radio but made the baffle work. There were 8" deep side cheeks to the main top-to-bottom support structure at the rear, further baffling the speaker back,  which extended the audio path a bit, the space between them (where the electrics and speaker were) was finished with a perforated cover which may have damped things a bit. Granted it was stylish but I'm convinced there was a fair bit of science in the design.

Having said that, it was fine for us in the domestic setting for music for over 20 years.

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It's those 16/32 pipes that make organ music so satisfying to me.  Still takes some pretty good speakers to reproduce them to any degree, especially the 32s.  You just tend to feel those rather than hear them.  I don't think even the two pipe organs I've played had anything over 16s.  Electronic organs, as you know, I,m sure, tend to be scorned by purist pipe players, but they did have one at the church where I took lessons.  The subwoofers were as big as a wardrobe and they produced a pretty realistic rumble on the 32 foot stops.  Closest thing I've ever heard to pipes in an electronic.  If you closed your eyes you could be fooled into thinking it was a pipe organ.

Back to radios.  my folks had a PYE table radio.  Eight inch speaker somewhere among the valves.  Hardly hi-fi but I was only into Luxemburg in those days.

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I know what you mean LL, the first I experienced them was in an auditorium with a pipe organ.

Also I could just about make them out when in the 60s I built a couple of 30 litre bass reflex Wharefdale enclosures driven by an amplifier in which I'd tweaked the tone ccts. The most satisfying was through Sennheiser headphones; my room is not big enough to accommodate the full effect acoustically.

Keep playing LL, I'm playing my Korg right now, in between checking out NS.!

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I'm not too strong on acoustic theory, but I recall reading somewhere that 'yer average' living room isn't big enough to accommodate the wavelength produced by the biggest organ pipes, even if you could build a speaker to reproduce it.

 

And your radio Willow.  If you still have it, I'm sure that any one of numerous specialists could bring it back up to 'spec' for a price.  Resistors and capacitors gradually going 'off spec', seems to be the main culprit.  That, and often poor aerials, account for much of the nostalgic talk of 'warm' sounding valve stuff.  Agreed, the top end wasn't what you get with FM, but a good set in good condition still sounded pretty good. Valves can last for amazing lengths of time if not overdriven. Sadly, one of the well known radio restorers, Phillip Knighton of Wellington in Somerset, passed away a couple of years ago.

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Also Willow, I didn't intend to be critical of the design of your radio, was just genuinely a bit 'baffled' if you'll excuse the pun.  We never had a radio at home until after I'd branched out on my own. Early on just a box with a speaker in it, fed from the Rediffusion cable between all the houses.  Later as I recall daytime radio was relayed through the tv.. or at least I think so.  Hard to recall.

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The first radio I can remember was a Bush like this one. Often fell asleep to the hiss and crackle of Radio Luxembourg or the shipping forecast. I think it had long wave and medium wave and the tuning display showed exotic places like Hilversum, Prague and Reykjavik

 

DAC10; Bush Radio; London (ID = 1879789) Radio

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Wow! it let me on this morning.  Hope it doesn't dump me before I finish this post.  You made a good point Willow about room size and low frequencies.  I guess the average room size is far too small to do much for a 32 foot stop.  I think that frequency is around 16 Hz.  The harmonics may be even lower.  I know the electronic organ at the church I mentioned produced a thundering 32 foot sound, but that was a big reverberant stone sanctuary.

If we discuss this more may I suggest a different thread.  This one is not friendly to my Ipad and thats mostly what I use online.

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Come home LL, there's a church in Ilkeston for sale. The organ is still there and working.

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Heard of a guy over here who did just that.  Bought a church with a really nice pipe organ.  Converted some of the space to a living area and now has a really fine instrument in the front room.

It would be a good deal for a real enthusiast.  Probably cost a bit to heat though.

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On 3/6/2019 at 4:18 PM, loppylugs said:

It's those 16/32 pipes that make organ music so satisfying to me.  Still takes some pretty good speakers to reproduce them to any degree, especially the 32s.  You just tend to feel those rather than hear them. 

True LL, it works on a real pipe organ with no colouration or distortion I agree but I think for me chasing it down with huge contraptions in my home will be frustrating, apart from Mrs WW's veto.

Sometime in the 80s I went to a concert in the Albert Hall Nottm. This was before they inserted that floor which cut the main auditorium in 2. I got a seat in the middle, the huge space went from ground level below the pulpit to that large curved ceiling.

The highlight of the concert was this..(this clip is of a different organ but the Albert Hall Binns did a fabulous job)

This was the real McCoy surround sound, through the seat anorl.

I realised at the time, I'll never reproduce this through speakers so I made do with what I had.:)

ps it's not bad on decent headphones.

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On 1/17/2019 at 12:36 PM, DJ360 said:

Ship and Mitre is a great pub for choice of beers, real ales etc

 

The sold out O2 & Sleaford Mods superb, support came from a young all girl band from Manchester Liines, drank mostly around the train station area, the Ship & Mitre got a special visit, excellent, trip to Anfield, drove to Gormley's Another Place & walked Southport Pier (It was a proper ghost town, never seen a soul) 

 

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On 1/16/2019 at 12:15 AM, DJ360 said:

Cavern is free entry until evening.

 

Not at the weekends, we did stroll down Mathew Street lots of homeless & begging ...... Horrible! 

 

https://www.cavernclub.com/opening-times-and-prices/

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OK. Got that a bit wrong.  Will say though that I tend to avoid Matthew St like the plague in the evening and at weekends unless I'm invited along to a show. Much too much noise from all of the 'hanger on' places.  I prefer afternoons midweek.  Will be there on Monday.

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Can't get to Lynyrd Skynyrd's final tour this summer due to holiday commitments. Soooooo, it's two DVD's later, then earphones and utube whilst madam has the soaps on. 

A true to their roots band. Great songs, such as Sweet Home Alabama, The Last Rebel, Red, White & Blue, and the truly heart wrenching I Need You. All raw, emotional, soulful and some great guitar playing. 

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Was watching some TV political stuff the other night by 'Our correspondent Vicki Young'...

 

If found myself thinking.. 'Vicki Young.. where do I know that name from?'  Eventually worked out that one of the first 'rock' 78s I acquired was this....  This is the 45.. mine was definitely 78.

 

 

 

The song was written by the classic Leiber and Stoller duo and the first version was by The Robins..one of the eary 'Bird' groups of black RnB 'Doo Wop' bands.  I'd be very surprised if that version was released here in any numbers in 1953/4.

 

 

 

Beach Boys used essentially the same for their 'Student Demonstration Time' on 'Surf's Up'

 

 

Great stuff..

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