philmayfield 6,115 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Yes but c'mon - "I want to praise the Lord"! "That'll be £8 sir. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,580 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Suppose they could sell off some of the land they own, also, why don't they open up the churches in the evening and let the homeless sleep there, it would be safer than the streets,that would be a christian act wouldn't it? Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,408 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 They can charge what they like as far as I'm concerned, I simply have no desire to go in.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Brew said: Probably trying to keep up with ‘that bastard Mayfield’! I don't have a second home! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,507 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 £17 for an OAP in Westminster Abbey last week, but we got a complimentary audio tour. Need to do the tour half a dozen more times to take it all in though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, plantfit said: Suppose they could sell off some of the land they own, also, why don't they open up the churches in the evening and let the homeless sleep there, it would be safer than the streets,that would be a christian act wouldn't it? Rog Christianity and the Church of England are poles apart! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,580 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 £102 Lizzie is a fair bit of money for six more visits Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,408 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, philmayfield said: I don't have a second home! You have, the kids just haven't got around to telling you yet.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,580 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 They're supposed to be christians aren't they Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,134 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Can you folks slow down your posting, I can't read 'em fast enough ! B. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,580 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 And, they could open the mosques,synagogues,temples and all other religious buildings in the evenings for the homeless/rough sleepers,somewhere safe,better than being on the streets Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 I don't know what the rules are in the UK, but this side of the pond the Church would get fined, Hell, a preacher was arrested for feeding the homeless in Florida a few months back. Churches don't have the facilities for a homeless shelter as as such are not "zoned" as such. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,580 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Are you saying in America the church would sooner starve the homeless than give them shelter?, jeez, our homeless don't know how lucky they are Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denshaw 2,871 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, plantfit said: Suppose they could sell off some of the land they own, also, why don't they open up the churches in the evening and let the homeless sleep there, it would be safer than the streets,that would be a christian act wouldn't it? Rog Some churches do Rog, Saint Johns in Ilkeston opened their church hall as a winter shelter. Even with volunteers and donations of food it was still costing them for paid staff and heating. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,507 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, plantfit said: And, they could open the mosques,synagogues,temples and all other religious buildings in the evenings for the homeless/rough sleepers,somewhere safe,better than being on the streets Rog The vast majority of homeless and rough sleepers DON’T want a bed for the night. Fact. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, Brew said: They can charge what they like as far as I'm concerned, I simply have no desire to go in.. Historically and architecturally it’s quite interesting. I can just see the twin towers of Southwell Minster if I stand on a chair in our bedroom. I think in 57 years in the area I’ve been in twice - and one of those was to hear Yehudi Menuhin! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,580 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Southwell minster Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 I pass that on the way to the chip shop! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,427 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, philmayfield said: All the Christians I know round here have posh houses, (some have two) two cars, foreign holidays. I am I missing something or is the Lord providing? I just replied to this and it went missing in the ten or so posts that followed on. I'm not disagreeing with what a lot of you have said. Let folks sleep in the buildings if you want. Thats not the primary issue. Beacuse someone says 'I'm a Christian,' does not make them one. Some televangelists here live in million dollar houses and fly private jets. They also preach heresy. I usually don't address religious issues on here for the same reasons I don't discuss politics. I do think though, that I have a right to differentiate berween spiritual sincerity and hypocrisy. A true Christian would not call you whatever your neighbor called you, Phil. If I were there I'd offer to buy you lunch. Religious discussion should be built on time and true friendship. Costs of entering a building to just look around it are another topic. Apologies if I have repeated myself. I can't remember quite how I phrased the last post that got lost. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,580 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Gerrus a bag of chips and a fish Phil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,please Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,134 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 You can buy lunch anytime you like Loppylugs, I won't be offended. Just as long as I don't have to fetch it. Bless you ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,134 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, plantfit said: Gerrus a bag of chips and a fish Phil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,please Rog Want some peas Rog ? Or curry sauce. B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,580 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 peas please me duck and steady on the salt Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 It’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God. I was ‘radicalised’ at Sunday school many years ago and I still remember! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,580 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Are there many camels around Southwell Phil Rog 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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