taxi ray 170 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 The manse is shown on an 1880 map, it is about halfway between the horse and groom pub, and Reuben shaws garden centre. It is on the same side of the road as the pub. Looking at the same map there was also a church between the pub and the manse. On a street map it would be about 114 Moorgreen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I've found it on an old map. But I'm not (yet) quite sure how that translates onto a present-day version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 370 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Bored, so I thought I would see if I could find it on Google. The ringed building fits the site of the manse exactly. Directly opposite the start of Reuben Shaws Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pianoman 1,531 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 The entrance in my Streetview Link at#45 is the one directly above and on the opposite side of the road to 'Rueben Shaw' garden centre on your second map at #52 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 #54...I can't see that link as being the entrance. I agree with notty ash and the entrance would seem to be further down, here... ttps://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.0256119,-1.2783671,3a,75y,88.03h,92.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRG_3KO383eLTJlkUJjufNA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Maybe the Manse shown on the Cliff Ton's old map is not the same as Jill's. This is the actual Barber residence nearby. It looks more in keeping with a substantial property. http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;NTGM007887&pos=5&action=zoom&id=59332 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 #56 Lamb Close, the Barber residence, is many times larger than The Manse and further back along the road toward the direction of Underwood. I have old slides taken at Lamb Close by Caroline Isabella Fryar in the 50s which show a building totally different from The Manse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Jill Sparrow said: Lamb Close, the Barber residence, is many times larger than The Manse and further back along the road toward the direction of Underwood. Looking at a wider map, that description fits the two buildings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 370 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 According to the old maps, the lane shown in post #45 originally ran to a brickyard. Definitely not the Manse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pianoman 1,531 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 No it didn't. You are confusing that with New Lane, which did eventually lead to Watnall Brickyard. New Lane starts at the side of the Horse and Groom, Moorgreen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 370 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Sorry, but the 1880 OS map clearly shows a small old brickyard just opposite where the Reuben Shaw nursery's public entrance now is, but well back from the road. The one you refer to is a completely different one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pianoman 1,531 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 That will be something I have missed then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 The date of the plans for The Manse, according to RIBA, is 1873. It was extended around 1895 and again around 1947. It's certainly a very secluded place! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tombarber 5 Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Hi all. My great aunt Naomi (daughter of Major Barber) lived at the Manse. She sadly died in 2002 and the house was sold a couple of years later so it's no longer in the Barber family. In terms of the location, Notty Ash's Google Map picture shows the correct location. Jill, you mention that you've got some slides of Lamb Close in the 50s. I'd LOVE to see them somehow! Are there people in them? If so, might be Major Barber and other family members I can identify. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 #64 Tom, Naomi was your great aunt was she? As I mentioned earlier, her death had recently taken place when I visited her neighbour who had known her well. It is some time since I looked at the slides of Lamb Close but, yes, they do feature people and, if I remember correctly, Naomi is among them. I may have scanned them when I first looked at them. I'll have a dig around and see what I can find. Putting photos on NS has always defeated me but we can probably work out a way to email the images to you. You may also be interested to see the photos I have which were taken outside The Manse in the 30s. Did you know the house personally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 My good friend, Catfan, has kindly offered to post some old photos I have of The Manse, the building I suspect could have been The Grange at Eastwood, Lamb Close, various members of the Barber Family, etc. Watch this space over the next few days! Since all the families involved had a great love of animals and the photographer liked animals better than people, there are lots of dogs and cats in the pictures too! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 As Jill has said, here are the first couple of photo's she has kindly sent me. An image of Canon Thomas Gerrard Barber. This is from a EP article in 2007. An image of Ruth Haslam (nee Barber) 1899-1995, daughter of Dr Robert David Barber of Eastwood. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Three more of Jill Sparrow's oictures. John William Fryar, manager of Barber Walker Colliery until his death in 1915 . Two photos which may be of The Grange in Eastwood which is where he lived. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Alice Georgiana Strelley, Dr Barber was her second husband. Dr Robert David Barber. Ivy Cottage Church Street Eastwood Home of Dr Barber 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Many thanks Catfan. The grave of John William Fryar can be found in Greasley churchyard. His family paid for one of the bells in the church peal as a memorial and it is inscribed with his name. His younger brother, Mark, was also a Colliery manager and his hobby was bell ringing. The three people on the second photo are from the left, one of the Fryar sisters, Mark Fryar and his wife, Louisa Mary Fryar, nee Strelley. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Fryar family members outside The Manse. Fryar sisters outside The Manse. In the Manse Garden. Outside the Manse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katyjay 5,085 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 #69. Love that cottage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Pets in the garden of The Manse. The Manse Garden. The Manse. With dog outside the Manse. Ruth Barber in the 1920s. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,269 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 #71 Many thanks, Catfan. First photo shows back row: Caroline Isabella Fryar, her brother Mark Strelley Fryar. Front row: Marian Robey Bell and Louisa Mary Fryar, nee Strelley. Date unknown but prior to 1934. More Manse photos yet to come. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pianoman 1,531 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Great pictures. The house in #68 that you say may be The Grange, Eastwood, certainly has the appearance that I remember it albeit derelict when I knew it. (It was an excellent playground) #69 Ivy Cottage, Church Street, Eastwood is *reputably* the oldest house in Eastwood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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