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2 hours ago, philmayfield said:

This is yet another example of the illogical messages from the authorities which the public have to interpret.

 

This is something of a deflection from the original wearing of masks in a pub but as WW and I have pointed out regulating for every circumstance simply can't be done and it's reasonable for the authorities to rely on peoples common sense to protect themselves and others as far as possible.

 

But I really don't get it, we're talking about wearing a mask for the very few seconds it takes to walk to a socially distanced table. Even if the chance of spreading the virus is vanishingly small, a chance, like the lottery is still a chance

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It’s still taking a chance being in a pub or restaurant with other people seated at tables and not wearing masks. The fact of walking to the table wearing a mask has little bearing on the situation. It would have perhaps been better for the regulations not to have been relaxed but the Government has to make a value judgement between getting businesses back on their feet, collecting tax revenue and the possibility of transmitting the virus. I’m sure sensible people will take the necessary precautions for their own protection. Looking at the Government’s website I feel it could have provided more detailed guidance but then again who bothers to read it!

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1 hour ago, philmayfield said:

Looking at the Government’s website I feel it could have provided more detailed guidance but then again who bothers to read it!

 

Yeah but no but, as per your request nanny has given you clear advice, wear a mask from door to table, can't be any clearer than that can it?

Whether we agree or not is irrelevant 

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So your drinks are now brought to your table on a tray, but you have to take them off the tray because the waiter can not touch them, who put them on the tray & who poured them in the first place?

Time to stop this snowflake, woke, wetwipe madness :crazy:  

 

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That's an easy decision for me, I don't drink, but I recognise those whose social sphere revolves mainly round drinking must be finding it frustrating.

 

I said previously we are only a hop and skip away from a third wave and those not taking precautions seriously are (in my opinion as a fully paid up wetwipe snowflake), not helping. ;)

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Lockdown lovers look away now :crazy:

 

 

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Here at the moment the over and under 40's are being vaccinated. Mostly AZ. My dil has been very poorly since monday. ( az) my son had Pfizer. ( no problem)There was a woman who refused az and theres been 3 more who have had reactions. Now the worry is that starting next week the 18 yr olds are due for their vaccinations. My dil is very worried, she says she will take her son but will ask first and if its az she will refuse and await further instructions. Her mother and father both had a bad reaction. According to tv they are reconsidering az for the younger adults. Has anyone else heard of reactions in younger adults/ or any person under 80? My husband and I both had az with no reactions whatsoever but they say that az is suitable for the older person but not the younger ones. Makes you think.

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So the UK govt wants to accelerate the vaccination programme.  I was stewarding at a vaccine centre yesterday and the numbers turning up were about a quarter of its capacity.  Over 40s can even just walk in, no appointment needed.

Under 40s get Pfizer if first jab.  If it's 2nd jab they get same as whatever they had first time (AZ or Pfizer).

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My 91 year old aunt had Covid after being admitted to hospital at Christmas. This meant she could not have the vaccine for some time. She has only just received her second dose and had a bad reaction to it.

 

Both my doses were AZ. Frozen shoulder and neck on the vaccinated side 48 hours after the first dose. Nil reaction to second dose. A friend who had Pfizer experienced exactly the same.  It seems to affect everyone differently, even if they've actually had the virus.

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The vaccinator must  play a part. My flu jab hurt like a bugger, I had a 'dead arm' and my shoulder was swollen for two days. First Pfizer totally painless, didn't even feel the needle and zero after effects. Second Pfizer much like the flu jab...

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I had a thyroid screen on Friday. Now we all know that I have needle phobia, so I didn't look. The phlebotomist was new to me but I didn't feel the needle go in. I gave her 9 out of 10.  The following morning, there was a livid blue/black thumbprint bruise on the outer lateral edge of my left arm with a very painful lump underneath it.  It's still there. I admit, I bruise easily but it seems to be getting worse. I'm revising her mark to 1/10 and I don't want to see her next time!

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I agree with your first sentence, Brew!

I obviously had a good vaccinator as I never felt the needle at all and my arm wasn’t tender at any point afterwards.

However,  I did get the several side effects of the actual vaccine which started about 6 hours afterwards.

Injections have never bothered me so I’m always very relaxed - maybe that’s why I never get pain at the actual injection site?

 

or as the saying goes…. “No sense, no feeling”  :crazy: ?

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Hmm. Government announces four week delay in lifting restrictions, which takes it to 19th July.

 

I’m due to go to the F1 at Silverstone on the 18th, along with thousands of other people who’ve bought rather expensive tickets.

 

Oh well.

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Surely though Rob, you would be entitled to your money back if you've been told you can't go.?

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Probably would get a refund, but it’s not the same as being there. Especially as it’s my birthday present from our daughter.

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3 hours ago, Brew said:

The vaccinator must  play a part. My flu jab hurt like a bugger, I had a 'dead arm' and my shoulder was swollen for two days. First Pfizer totally painless, didn't even feel the needle and zero after effects. Second Pfizer much like the flu jab...

 

My vaccinator was the nurse in our local health centre. I didnt feel a thing and neither did my husband. I have to have regular blood tests and she nearly always does it but tomorrow I have to have CT scan with contrast and if the nurse ( I have to go to Alessandria) cant find the vein she wants and starts looking at other sites I freeze. In the wrist or back of hand I start getting nervous. In my arm I'm very relaxed and it doesnt bother me.

I am having to go by ambulance, no reason but its a private appointment and my sil is a volunteer and she says I wont have to wait too long once I'm there. I only hope this will be the last of a continuing list of tests that i've done lately.

On a different tack I hear on the news that UK is in fear of getting a third lockdown or delaying restrictions. Hope it doesn't get to that stage.

We are lucky we are now in Zona Bianca with very low new cases and deaths. Come on UK you can do it.

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3 hours ago, Rob.L said:

Probably would get a refund, but it’s not the same as being there. Especially as it’s my birthday present from our daughter.

I know someone who’ll be there! 

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All the best for tomorrow, nonna x

I’m  not sure if the UK can prevent another (near) lockdown!

 If everyone had obeyed the rules or even closely followed the guidelines, I think we could have been over it by now…. But some people in this country are just too used to having the freedom to do mostly what they want regardless.   Just my opinion …

 

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It seems to me there was little point in stopping people in the UK from travelling locally, whilst our borders were open to international travel until way after major outbreaks were known to be running wild

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They're doing it on purpose, to keep me from coming up to Nottingham. I'm sure of it. Sod going abroad, I'll settle for visiting me friends and relatives.

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45 minutes ago, LizzieM said:

I know someone who’ll be there! 

Who's that then?

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Good Luck nonna hope you dont finish up like a dart board we went 2 weeks ago for 2nd covid shot never felt a thing and no side effects surprise surprise we had our yearly flu shot in November.

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