Brew 5,417 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, DJ360 said: covid patients are taking up a lot of hospital bed spaces whilst others are dying from more severe but treatable ailments Can't agree witht that...: https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-uk-hospital-admissions/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,730 Posted September 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Jim, I didn't say what you quoted. That was Phil's comment which I quoted. My own reading of the news in general and confirmed by your link, show that it is not Covid patients in hospital 'per se' that is the cause of problems in other areas of care. The problems seem to me to be cumulative effects of: -Hospitals being perceived as 'dangerous places' by many..which discourages attendance..esp. at A&E with chest pains for e.g. -GP Surgeries strongly discouraging face to face appointments..to protect both practitioners and patients. -Certain 'non critical' hospital appointments being cancelled.. re-scheduled, or switched to remote consultations. There does appear to be a genuine issue around cancer.. both in the investigation and diagnosis phase, and in the treatment phase. People are seemingly afraid to go to Docs/hospitals..thus delaying diagnosis and treatment. Add in that it seems much treatment was postponed at the height of the Covid crisis, which has created a backlog. In short. Blame Covid... the virus.. but not the few poor sods still admitted to hospital with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavertongirl 1,719 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I do sometimes wonder if the virus had been more severe in children/young adults with them being the most at risk if things might have been done differently. Wonder if us of a certain age would have been writing comments about it only being a small percentage that die so what is the problem like some of the comments I have seen on line. Also is it possible the high figures we are getting at the moment are as a result of increased capacity in testing? Possibly wishful thinking. I see there have been “outbreaks” in 21 schools in England up to yesterday. Must be all those teachers not socially distancing at coffee time as per Jenny Harris! Dread to think what Nottinghams figures will be when the students are all here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nonnaB 4,895 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 SG I think you may be right. When we have the daily reports new case numbers are given saying plus**** more or less ***** than yesterday, with so many swabs taken ( more or less than yesterday) then the number of deaths again stating more or less than yesterday. At the end we have actual cases, actual deaths, in intensive care and cured. To me it's easier to understand and you can see if it seems to be getting worse or better. When people started to return from holidays we were warned that positive cases would go up and they did from 530 to over 1000 + in 24 hrs. They are slowly going down but the swabs vary. I think as many do that we will still have a problem getting rid of this virus. To us it seems it's always been and continues to be in Lombardia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavertongirl 1,719 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I hope so nonna, I really do. I was starting to do a little bit more albeit cautiously. Been for a couple of meals on the governments scheme, but had a table outside didnt feel safe going indoors. Even sat outside under a parasol in the rain eating our meal, and, no, we weren’t the only ones all the tables, well socially distanced, were full! Also ventured into town for the first time since January, goodness where has the year gone. Didn’t get the bus, parked at the Forest park and ride and walked into town via the Arbritum (spelling), bit disappointed in the birds there they were all cockatiels. I can remember the Mynah bird that Wolf whistled and knew swear words as well. We just went to Primark, had a little wander round and then walked back to the Forest. Glad the library has reopened now, have got a Kindle but it isn’t the same as reading a book. If the figures do continue to rise, Nottingham’s have really increased past few weeks although not as bad as a lot of places, I don’t think we will be expanding our activities any more at all. I don’t know if I will be contacted by the school about invigilating at any exams later this year. I really enjoy it but will have to think long and hard about doing it and would want to be able to wear a mask\visor before even considering it. Even then I am not sure about it. On the whole I suppose I am in a routine now, I don’t mind my own company (in a lot of cases I prefer it to being social - sounds awful but I don’t have a high opinion of most people, present company excepted, prefer my few friends, close family and most of all Kai) so I am quite content. Unfortunately I think we will have to live with the virus for a while to come, hopefully a vaccine will emerge and the actual treatment seems to be getting better with the various drugs that help alleviate the symptoms but not outright cure. It could also mutate to a less virulent strain possibly. So there could be a small chink of light at the end of the tunnel. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,417 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, DJ360 said: Jim, I didn't say what you quoted. I realised that, apologies for giving the wrong impression. I made the same comment after Phil's post but never pressed submit... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,281 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Well, having gone blind in my left eye, I hope that my op for the 28th is not cancelled. Caught a fair few trout on Carsington yesterday and Blithfield today, with one eye. Double my catch when I get two back 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,417 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Heres hoping PP, heres hoiping... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,143 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Caught of few trout with only one eye. Well done PP. How would you do if you used a rod and line? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,417 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Our PP is clever ... not many one eyed Trout about never mind catching 'em... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 A virus that deadly you need to have a test to see if you’ve had it or not 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nonnaB 4,895 Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 As our children are about to start back to school the situation is extremely worrying. The news last night revealed that 13,000 teachers have been found positive. My grandchildren have started to recuperate their lost lessons and will start the proper schooling in a couple of weeks. Apparently their schools are missing a lot of teachers ( covid?) I hope the news a moment or two ago is that temperatures although not compulsory at school are now being taken outside schools before children go in for lessons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,281 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 Our Great granddaughter started back last week. She arrives here most mornings to be taken to school and then she is collected and stays here til mum and dad get back from work (essential jobs). Should we be worried? Well yes, but it is more important that we take the risk and support the family. If everyone of our age (~80) declined to do their bit and expected to be protected, maybe services would grind to a halt. While taking appropriate precautions, life still has to go on, even if the population gets thinned out a bit Just a thought - if the older population takes a big hit and is reduced, then the private pension providers should profit when all of these annuity payments cease prematurely. Less state pension to pay out too. Just hoping that the Chancellor is not banking on this! 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MelissaJKelly 2,121 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 My 2 nephews started back 2 weeks ago. Different start and finish times for every class to reduce amount of people waiting at the gates. Last Monday it was closed again as 2 teachers have COVID. Don't think they should have reopened. Both nephews are in 'bubbles' of over 30!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denshaw 2,872 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 A Lenton man has just been fined £10K for having a house party with 50 guests, covidiot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,466 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 Den, I'm not sure he fits the description of a 'man'. According to this report he was 19yrs old, so probably a student who lived in the house and invited all his mates. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54131030 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 We took our one and only Grandchild to Birmingham on Friday to begin her adventure at Aston University. She was the first to arrive at her shared accommodation on the campus, today three more will arrive, there will be seven all together. They have a communal Kitchen with all amenities, and their own on suite bedrooms. No Freshers week activities as all have been cancelled due to the virus. She Is going out to explore Birmingham later today with one of her new flat mates. The flat mates are from all over England. I pray that apart from the usual dangers of life in a big city, that everyone is Covid free. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trogg 2,016 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 My Grand daughter started her 2nd year at Coventry today and a Grandson starts his first year at Sheffield next week. What with corona virus and away from their families I am sure they will be OK , but I am still concerned. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 Our Granddaughter got a place last year at Warwick, it was closer to Coventry than Warwick, it would have been her second year as well, but she decided to have a year off and also go to Aston as it is easier to get home, as her mum is partially disabled and limited in mobility. I understand your being concerned Trogg, I'm the same. We never stop fretting after them, it's called Love. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,417 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Cliff Ton said: Den, I'm not sure he fits the description of a 'man'. According to this report he was 19yrs old, so probably a student who lived in the house and invited all his mates. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54131030 And not a hope in hell of paying a 10k fine so there was absolutly no point doing it. Unless it's an object lesson and makes a good headline to keep the riff-raff in check. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,134 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 Failure to pay the fine could result in a sentence or more leniently community service. His copybook is already blotted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,507 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 I read an article by Luke Johnson in today’s Sunday Times, it puts this ‘pandemic’ into perspective. How many of us actually remember the Hong Kong Flu Epidemic of 1968-69? I don’t ....... maybe it was because I was a teenager enjoying life to the full or maybe it wasn’t being reported on TV and radio, which was all we had in those days, apart from newspapers. No internet, social media etc. to stir up fear 50 years ago. Luke Johnson says that according to Encyclopaedia Britannica between one million and four million people died of Hong Kong flu worldwide. At that time the global population was only half of what it is today, 7.8 billion. Covid-19 is unlikely to kill one million people. Half a century ago the world took a pandemic in its stride, we all carried on going to work and socialising. This time almost a third of the country’s working population has been paid to be idle, sitting at home, enjoying a lovely summer of sunshine and warmth. Children have missed out on vital schooling and important exams. Businesses have gone bust, cancer and heart operations have been put on hold, the damage this pandemic has done is immeasurable. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paradiddle 146 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, philmayfield said: Failure to pay the fine could result in a sentence or more leniently community service. His copybook is already blotted. Everybody that attended should be fined and their copy books blotted!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,305 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 I know several people who caught Hong Kong A2 or whatever it was called, including my father. They were all very ill but just stayed in bed at home. No one else in our house caught it, thankfully. It killed millions, globally. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nonnaB 4,895 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 My grandchildren start back to school tomorrow. They've already recuperated something but don't suppose it's much. Talking to my DIL there are so many things they can do and can't do besides the usual there's the worry of them not being able to have a snack at lunch times. They don't have school dinners, the two boys who are now at the same school have a bar nearby where they can get a sandwich, a slice of pizza or whatever but social distancing can be impossible at lunch times . Their sister is at a different school for her first year . There is no restaurant or bar nearby. Which means that she has to take something from home, but there's a restriction, they aren't allowed to take food from home because of any allergy problems. if they happen to,share their food. She's not a baby and is very sensible so it's unlikely that she will share her food. So not sure how she's going to go on or what she's likely to take. They all leave the house at 7 am to get to school for 8. Catching the bus here to Alba and then having a long walk to school. By the time lunch time comes at 1 pm they will be hungry. At the moment they don't know what their hours will be but it's always a long day for them. Then there's always extra homework they have to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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