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Yes OZ directly after i posted yesterday nothing was said about lockdown but we still have to be vigilant by wearing masks outdoors which most people have been doing anyway. He also said to be careful in family if some are working away or if someone is visiting you from the next town say because you never know who theyve been in contact with. We are now so used to wearing them thats its natural to put them on before we go out. It may be annoying to some but im glad our govt is taking care of us. 

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Just heard today that my son's neice has been sent home from school and the school has closed. There is one child that has contracted the virus. My DIL said to me not to be offended if she asked us not to hug and kiss my grandchildren when they come in. A very wise decision as they all catch the same buses to scoll in the mornings ( there are 4 coaches which take them to Alba.)  Waiting to hear what cases tv brings us today. Keep safe all.

Also the nursery school has closed due to an infection of one of the children.

4,458new cases 

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On 8 ottobre 2020 at 7:27 PM, radfordred said:

Nottingham now showing the highest rate of Coronavirus cases in England :Shock: EIEIEIO up the coronavirus league we go!  

 

At least we are top of something :crazy: well done Nottingham!

 

Yes i heard that on our news.

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I've been trying to read about covid and Nottingham but the page keeps on renewing , it's so annoying. At the moment it's aperitif time here and all the younger generation is out and about for their social gatherings. Few masks, sitting close to other tables and hanging round. This was just on news in Padova and Milan. Then we get annoyed because they don't help themselves or others in keeping this virus at bay. 

We get good news only to be followed by bad news. 

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I saw a report saying there are now nearly 1500 confirmed cases at the University. (Didn’t realise there are nearly 50,000 students in Nottingham but then everywhere you look there is student accommodation.) Although this is a worrying figure it is good to know they are being picked up, hopefully with at least some of their contacts. I do think the university is doing a good job with its testing and that this will eventually get our figures a bit more under control fingers crossed.

I was a bit bemused by Comments by the head of public health In Nottingham who expressed surprise that our figures had suddenly spiked. Hasn’t she noticed what happened in Manchester and other university towns when the students arrived? I think 4 out of the top 5 in the list are university towns, not sure about the other one I have never heard of it!! 
I am not blaming the students in anyway, their accommodation either in the campus or outside probably isn’t the best for social distancing but I do hope they are sticking to the self isolating protocol. It only takes a couple of people who have no symptoms to spread it unfortunately, plus those who don’t follow the guidelines in the general population of which there are still a few. (can’t understand why standing 6’ away from the person in front of you in the queue is so hard especially when there are markings on the floor).
 

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I see they are now trialling the efficacy of the BCG (TB) vaccine in reducing seriousness of C-19 infection (and also note that this was suggested in the Lancet in April so why the delay in progress?).

Though many of us had the jab when in early teens, its protection apparently wanes as the years go by so if it proves useful, we'd need a booster (priority to be given to health care workers).

I read that BCG has not been used routinely in the UK since 2005, but I wonder whether this (and other various childhood inoculations) is why young 'uns have few or no symptoms of C-19?

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9 minutes ago, Jill Sparrow said:

Was that the jab involving 6 needles, given at secondary school?

 

I am seriously needle phobic and refused to have it. My response would be no different now.

 

Jill I think it was but I can't remember it hurting like an ordinary hypodermic needle.  After all the times I've had to have a needle stuck into me I'm now immune.

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Jill, in reply to your query, the six needle jab was a tester for TB. It depended on your reaction to this. If the site was red and raised, it showed that you had an immunity to the virus. Mine came up red on only three of the punctures so the doctor asked if anyone in my family had TB.

I replied that my Uncle Ernie died of TB, I had visited when alive so the doctor said I'd got immunity so didn't need the main injection. If no reaction occured, then you had two injections, if there was evidence of reaction some kids had only one shot. Thought I might be in that group but the doctor thought otherwise.

 

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Sorry BK, I’d written a similar post but you got in first!

The one with 6 tiny needles in a circle was the  MANTOUX TEST for TB.  If it reacted by showing up as a red circle in a few days, that meant the person had been in contact with TB, so they didn’t need the actual BCG vaccine to give them immunity.  If there was no reaction, then the BCG vaccine was given.

When I was tested in 1960, my test reacted so I didn’t need to have the jab.  However I did have to have a chest X-ray to make sure I didn’t still have it - they said many people just caught it and then their immune system overcame it.

My chest X-ray was OK.  

These days, the MANTOUX test is given just under the skin by a single needle!

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Didn't know what it were called. Had my test about 55/56 ish. Had me first chest x-ray 1958, as part of Coal board medical. When I went back as an xray technician 20 years later, I found my original film among nearly half million films.

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I had the TB jabs (2 at that time in the early 60s) and in those days I went swimming every day straight from school so every day the scabs floated off into the pool, I know ....... hope nobody swallowed them!
 

When my boys were at school in Hertfordshire some of the pupils were boarders, every year several new boys from China would need to get tested because they’d  never had the TB test or jab Over there so as I helped the School Matron out I had to escort them to the local hospital to get the test. It was interesting sitting in the hospital waiting room trying to make conversation with Chinese kids with limited English This was in the 1990s.  Referring to The Engineer’s post above, it makes one wonder if there is any relevance with lack of TB jabs in China! 

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BK and Margie yes I too was in contact with my aunt who had TB. Lizzie I hope no one swallowed them too but I remember that those who had the to injection had to wear plasters over the scabs.

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We were all quaking with fear, in the queue for checking test results from the six shooter. When the doctor told me I  were OK  and could manage without a jab, I could have kissed him ! Consequence from my mates who were suffering the two jabs was, " Lucky Bleeder "!!

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I had the full package.

6 point test and double jab.

 

I seem to remember someone saying it won't hurt, standard for all injections by Nurses at the time, I believe.

I don't remember it hurting, what I do remember is the pain from catching the double scabs which seemed to take weeks to come off.

 

Still got the scars now.

 

 

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My dad had TB and was incarcerated in Newstead Hospital for about six months during which time I was reluctantly taken to the chest clinic, Forest Dene, on Gregory Boulevard for investigation as to whether I had the disease and to have the BCG if I was clear.

 

What a creepy place Forest Dene was. I imagined it as Frankensteins Castle but full of mad scientists in white coats inflicting untold terrors on anyone brave enough to pass through its doors. I had to go there multiple times for X-rays, Mantoux tests (several as they couldn't decide on the results they were getting) and eventually have the injection itself. That was far from straightforward as an abcess formed at the injection site which issued foul smelling pus for months. They didn't seem to want to do anything about the abcess other than put a dressing on it and to go back in a month.

 

It did clear up eventually but there is still a large scar on my arm. Matches the smallpox vaccination scar on my other arm though.

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I was also a regular visitor to Forest Dene due to a propensity for bronchitis every winter after contracting measles as a four year old.  I loved the place because I knew someone there would utter those longed for words, "Keep her at home!"  

 

Since early childhood, I've loved old buildings and Forest Dene appealed to me.  I was appalled to see what now occupies the site.

 

Memories of wading through piles of red and gold fallen autumn leaves, walking along Gregory Boulevard with my mother, wrapped up in scarf,hat, gloves, etc, on our way for another chest x ray.  The cold autumn/winter air made me cough all the more!

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My dad had TB and was in Newstead Hospital, that is where he met my mum she was A nurse there (very romantic - he liked the nurse uniforms, in his later years when he had to go to hospital he was bitterly disappointed that the nurses weren’t wearing them anymore!!) So I had had a TB jab before the school one. Obviously I reacted to the ring of needles and although my mum told them I had had the jab I still had to go to Forest Dene for an X-ray. Not sure if I had to stay off school until I got the all clear.
Not sure from what I have read that having the jab so long ago makes a difference, it seemed a booster might be needed possibly?

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I don’t know if she actually had TB, but my mother spent some time at Newstead Sanatorium in the late 1950s-early 60s. I’ve no idea how long she spent there or how serious it was because I was young and didn’t understand what it was all about.

 

One thing I remember was myself and my sister sometimes having to stay with various grandparents while my dad went out to work; the only times we ever slept at either grandparents house.

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