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Margie is right. I keep popping in to see how you all are. Thankyou all so much for your posts.   I'm afraid we are not very well the pair of us. This must be the 'Long Covid' that we hear a

I really wish that more people were afraid. For their own safety.    I don't think anyone who hasn't witnessed in reality a person down on their hands and knees gasping  with a chest full of

Am in total dismay at the human race. It's becoming more like Mad Max at the moment.        This me me society we have created cares only about themselves: I'm alright Jack, the rest of you can f

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On 10/30/2020 at 10:46 PM, Gem said:

I agree with Stavertongirl regarding students they way they are behaving all over the country. They cannot seriously think they are immune unless they think alcohol kills the virus, if they can't follow the rules where they are living send them home. See if they behave the same in the place where their families live.

Oh to be eighteen again.

I would be doing exactly the same as the students.

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On 10/31/2020 at 2:58 PM, Brew said:

Now, all together.... 

The people's flag is deepest red
It shrouded oft our martyred dead...

 

Jim, whilst I appreciated the obvious irony in the bulk of your post, this last bit seems to me to be hinting that all of the loonies and conspiracy theorists are Socialists.  Most conspiracy theorists don't have a clue and just seem to fear ALL government.

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1 hour ago, Beekay said:

High blood pressure Loppy? Wanna buy some Ramipril? Only used once going to church. :rolleyes:

 

Hi. BK  Yeh, bp high.  I am planning on cataract surgery and the eye doctor gave me a form for my gp to sign saying I was fit for the procedure.  My gp found the bp to be high.  I was already on a bp med but it does not seem to be working as well as well as it was.  Gave me a different kind last week but it's no better.  Have to call him tomorrow.  It wasn't Ramipril.  I think fear of side effects drives my bp up.  Did Ramipril help you?

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50 minutes ago, DJ360 said:

this last bit seems to me to be hinting that all of the loonies and conspiracy theorists are Socialists

 

It's the Chinese Col, they're socialist you know...      I  think you're looking for aspersions where there are none.  ;)

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Watcha Loppy, yes, Ramipril is doing me some good. I'm still on it and have been for quite a while. My cardiac nurse is delighted with my bp. I bought myself a bp monitor so I can keep an eye on it and give the nurse some results when she rings, (Covid you know). I down loaded a bp chart so I've got an idea and my resting bp is in the normal range. My missus, her bp shoots up when she sees the machine, but our gp says it 'White Coat syndrome.

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That was one of the things about this new gp I've got.  When I mentioned White coat syndrome he immediately jumped down my throat.  "No such thing!!"  Well, I had some news for him.  Plenty of docs believe in it.  First thing they do is take your bp.  It can be fine at home, but way up when you get there.  You need average readings over several days.

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There is absolutely no way your bp will be the same as at rest, when lying on your bed. Then you walk/drive to the surgery, with all that entails, followed by the nerves rush whilst waiting with anticipation in the waiting room.

Thats why sometimes the nurse/gp says, sit down we'll try again in 5 minutes.

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3 hours ago, loppylugs said:

I am planning on cataract surgery

Hi Loppy,

I have had cataract surgery on both eyes in the last two months. Absolutely brilliant, you don't know how bad your eyes are until someone fixes them as the deterioration is so slow you don't notice it.

The operations were no problem, twighlight anaesthesia only after affect was like having sand in your eyes the evening of the operation but it was gone in the morning. Hope the BP can be controlled and that you can go ahead and have the operation. Then like me you will be able to see a pimple on a gnats bum at 50 paces.

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3 hours ago, Brew said:

 

It's the Chinese Col, they're socialist you know...      I  think you're looking for aspersions where there are none.  ;)

 

Yebbut.. the bulk of your post was surely taking the mick out of those who believe such conspiacy theories.. not the Chinese who are supposedly the villains.

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It was a choice and there are elements of several different theories. The Russians had first dibs but said they were too busy at the moment arranging Americas next president. The Illuminati said they'd give it go if the weather picks up and they get permission from their mam.  David Icke said he'd do it but wants too much in expenses. It only leaves the Chinese..

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Right, this is about Covid AND Politics so I'll try it here first and see where it goes.

 

I've just watched a BBC2 Prog called 'Totally Under Control.' ..which details the progress of Covid in the US and the Trump Administration's response to it.

To say it was truly appalling and more than a bit scary isn't even the half of it.

I urge everyone who hasn't seen it.. to watch it on the iPlayer.

I knew long before his election that Trump was a dangerous lunatic, Climate Change Denier, Science Denier etc. 

I knew he had constantly sought to deny both the prevalence of and the threat from the virus.

I knew that he had largely sidelined existing Federal Agencies and Scientists in favour of sycophants and nut jobs. Many appointed because their sycophancy and religious views outweighed their scientific or technical qualifications.

 

BUT, I did not know that he had actually FORCED US PPE Manufacturers to export their product to China, from where it was reimported by a few favoured Private Sector Organisations, before being sold to State Health Organisations at inflated prices.

 

That he blamed his predecessor for the shortage of various stuff .. and personnel.. which his own administration had disposed of since he came to office.

 

I did not know that he had actually installed an Whitehouse official in the public 'Centre For Disease Control', to 'approve and re-write' anything which contradicted his own idiot view of the situation.

 

The list goes on and on and on.

 

What America has been experiencing since Trump took power is borderline Fascism and I don't use the word lightly..

 

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5 minutes ago, Brew said:

It was a choice and there are elements of several different theories. The Russians had first dibs but said they were too busy at the moment arranging Americas next president. The Illuminati said they'd give it go if the weather picks up and they get permission from their mam.  David Icke said he'd do it but wants too much in expenses. It only leaves the Chinese..

 

Well.. when you put it like that.... :(

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5 hours ago, Beekay said:

Tell me Oz, how often is it that you go looking at Gnats bums, inspecting for pimples? 

I don't do it on purpose they just catch my eye as they fly past and now having superpowers vision I see them.

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I think it is time to correct some perceptions about Australia

12 hours ago, philmayfield said:

They do have the advantage of being 32 times bigger in area and less than half our population. 

Granted if you take the population density of the whole of Australia it comes out as 3.2 persons per sq kilometre. This is ultra simplistic as 66+% of our population live in our 8 capital cities and 84% of our total population live within 50km of the coast. Lets look at Sydney which is probably the best known of our cities.The average population density of greater Sydney is 304 per sq km. The Australian Bureau of Statistics show there are areas of Sydney where population density is between 10,000 and 20,000 per square km, admittedly these are high density housing areas with many high rise towers and blocks of flats. Most of urbanised greater Sydney has a density of around 4,300 per sq km. Around the same as Nottingham or Liverpool.

13 hours ago, Stuart.C said:

All they have to do now is keep it the same whilst allowing foreigners into the Country.

We do allow limited numbers of people to come into Australia, mostly returning ex-patriots but some people with special circumstances and business travellers are allowed to enter but all these have to undergo medi-hotel quarantine for two weeks at their expense and test negative for covid 19 twice during the quarantine period. Travellers from New Zealand are currently exempt from restrictions.

13 hours ago, Cliff Ton said:

.and on the other side of the world, adjacent to almost no-one else.

We can't help living in God's Country however the Indonesian border is only 245 km (152 miles) from Australia and Indonesia has a population of around 270 million. Papua New Guinea with a population of nine million people is only 3.8 km (2.4 miles) from Australian territory.

 

The real reasons that we have been so successful in so far combating the virus are that our federal politicians acted early and effectively closed our international borders and the few that were allowed to enter having to go into quarantine for two weeks.

During the second wave of infections we thankfully  had state premiers that went against the Federal Gov't advice to open up commerce and borders and effectively locked down state borders with other states and metropolitan borders with regions within their capital cities.  Melbourne a city of 5 million people put in place severe restrictions that lasted 111 days. Including a curfew, severe limitations on household and work contacts, limitation on non essential travel to 5 km from home, closing all shops schools, unis, pubs etc. etc. This was supported by effective tracking and tracing of contacts of those infected (Not the useless App promulgated by the Federal Government) and a massive testing program. This has reduced Covid cases from a peak of almost 700 cases per day in August to zero for 4 days running. I know it was a massive clamp down on the people of the state of Victoria and Melbourne in particular but so far it has worked. The city has started to open up again so let's see if there is a surge of cases in two or three weeks.

 

Whether the economic cost vs health arguments ever get resolved is another issue. 

 

Unfortunately as for the UK I cannot see dithering Boris making the necessary decisions either way,  either, to introduce a full and meaningful "lockdown" or a strategy that protects the vulnerable and allows everyone else to get on with things. In the meantime I hope everyone on here, many of whom like me are likely to be in the vulnerable category, do what you have to to reduce your exposure to others. Whatever happens this pandemic is far from over.

Stay safe and keep well

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We are now waiting for a new DCPM supposed to be coming out later. Think it's going to be regional lockdowns. At the moment cinemas , museums , are closed, shopping centres only open in the week and closed weekends. Waiting to hear about catering and shops apart from those necessary.

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Our son tested positive this morning. We last saw him 10 days ago so we are OK. He saw his son at the w/e so he is also having to self isolate. That's another teacher and ambulance driver out of circulation. More pressure on their colleagues. I reckon the schools will close when they run out of teachers.

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