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True enough but what we don't and can't know for sure is the degree by which the vaccine ameliorates the effect of covid.

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Margie is right. I keep popping in to see how you all are. Thankyou all so much for your posts.   I'm afraid we are not very well the pair of us. This must be the 'Long Covid' that we hear a

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On 7/30/2021 at 3:57 PM, nonnaB said:

When will people realise that being vaccinated does work

With almost 50% of the Australian population in Sydney and Brisbane in relatively tight lockdown the queues to get tested are miles long and suddenly people want to get vaccinated. One problem though, not enough of the Pfizer vaccine after this stupid federal government scared everyone away from using the AZ version. Many people in our area that have just become eligible for a vaccination are being told none available until late Sept early Oct.

On a brighter note nonna B after that great win in the hundred metres final by the Italian sprinter Lamont Marcel Jacobs I heard an interview with his mother, what an amazing, proud but humble person.

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Seems that people are starting to realise it makes sense to be vaccinated. Its the same here but still plenty who dont want to know.

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The whole shemozzle re Australia's vaccination roll out continues and the difference between how states are responding to it is staggering.

An Australian update for those with family and friends in OZ.

The Brisbane and near area of Queensland is currently in lock-down and talking about reducing restrictions or coming out of lock-down this weekend and today reported 10 cases.

The whole state of Victoria has just gone into its' 6th lock-down with 10 reported cases.

The most populous areas of NSW's coast including greater Sydney are in lock-down and likely to remain so for several weeks with 291 cases and sadly an increasing death toll.

The Northern Territory has reported 1 case which is in a quarantine facility.

South Australia, Western Australia, Tasmania and the ACT have not reported any cases in the last few days.

Guess what, each state and territory has its own website and they are not in a standard format and on some it is extremely difficult to find out what you want to know re travel restrictions and data etc.

It is becoming obvious that the major population centres cannot continue with on again off again lock-down and restrictions.

We still have only 16.3% of our population fully vaccinated and this failure is 100% due to the Scott Moronson Federal LNP government. The fact that it put all its eggs in the AZ vaccine basket, did not purchase sufficient quantities of any alternate vaccines and then due to its incompetence ran a very effective scare campaign against the use of AZ for under 60's. They are now running round like chooks with no heads exhorting people to get vaccinated with any available vaccine if they understand the risks and sit there wondering why there is a reluctance by some people to get vaccinated with AZ. I just hope people remember this at next years Federal election.

My wife and I had our second AZ vaccination yesterday and absolutely no adverse reactions so hopefully some time next year we will be able to get to the UK.

 

 

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The number of  Covid cases in Australia seems low compared with here in the UK, where we have thousands of new cases every day and over 130,000 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic!

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Our new cases today 6,599 and 24 victims. Its increased very quickly but they say its still rising but more slowly. Green pass started today and the people who agree and dont agree with it are spouting their opinions on FB. Some agreeing and others really aggresive. Stupid really. Its a new law so like it or not we have to obey.

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Nonna, here in the UK we have had 31,808 new cases and 92 deaths reported in the past 24 hours

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Margie ,yesterday our Green Pass was obligatory to enter certain places such as Bars  restaurant , museums, etc. Those that havent been vaccinated arent entitled it so they are restricted to where they want  to go.

The first day went fairly well with people either eating or drinking outside or had the passes. Im watching news 24 at the moment and 1 million 700 young people have rushed to get their vaccinations and therefore their Green Pass because they want to go to a concert with their favourite pop star. Theres a protest against Green Pass with fights etc its awful. Lots of people have something against restaurants but its not the restaurants that have provided this pass its the government and they all have to obey. Those that refuse to be vaccinated will at the end lose out but they seem to think its the restaurants that will close because no one will go. On the news earlier the results were very positive with people accepting the new law. Sorry for those from abroad that were not advised by their travel company what things were necessary. But in most cases they are doing vaccinations on the spot and it seems to be the most sensible thing to do.

There will still be those that are no vax but in my opinion they are wrong for themselves and selfish to others.

But theres still those in govt who think theres still a lot more that could be done .

We'll see what effect it has in a few weeks.

My husband went to our favorite bar yesterday morning for his coffee and the proprietor apologised for asking to see the pass. He said hed asked someone earlier and he threw a load of abuse at him.

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Well yes Jim.. so long as I stay away from Blackpool...  which is no hardship.. I've managed it for 65 years..

 

Yes I agree that the situation for most is much safer.. but when I see people like the woman opposite, who works in a school.. operating what appears to be an open door policy for all visitors, friends, relatives, as well as her own kids and their friends..etc..etc..etc...  I do tend to wonder if some people have actually noticed that there is a pandemic.

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Just when you thought it was safe! Daughter has tested positive for Covid so we’re all now isolating for the next ten days. This time around, and thanks to her having had both jabs, it’s much more like a bad cold. We’re now having to use lateral flow tests every day and have tested negative so far.

 

Most likely, she caught it at work (she’s a waitress) from a customer now that most restrictions have been lifted and people aren’t as careful as before.
 

 

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Lateral flow tests, also known as lateral flow immunochromatographic assays or rapid tests, are simple devices intended to detect the presence of a target substance in a liquid sample without the need for specialized and costly equipment

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It’s the test you do at home by shoving a large cotton bud right up the back of your nose (until you start gagging!). You then put the bud into a solution which then goes into a bit of plastic for testing whether you are positive or not.


https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing/how-to-do-a-test-at-home-or-at-a-test-site/how-to-do-a-rapid-lateral-flow-test/

 

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B-K,,

The home test kit where you stick a big cotton bud up your nose and stir it around and also in the back of your throat and tickle your tonsils if you've still got them.
Then stir it in a magic potion and drip the residue into a widget.

1 bar and your clear, 2 bars and your positive, probably.

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And this is a positive result, from my 5 year old Grandson 3 weeks ago.

PCR test, the laboratory one confirmed it.

He caught Covid from a teacher in the last week at school.

 

It's barely noticeable but next to the T is a bar that indicates positive.

C is just a control marker.

 

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Thanks BK. We’re not worried this time around as we know a lot more about the virus than when we caught it in March 2020. We've been vaccinated and we’re well used to taking the simple precautions - hand washing, wiping down surfaces, keeping distance, etc.

 

Main worry is shopping, especially keeping the wife’s wine supply flowing!

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4 hours ago, ube said:

lateral flow immunochromatographic

Moving horizontally.  Not sure where the immuno comes in.. but chromatography is a method for identifying different substances by passing them through a medium which causes them to separate and show up as different things rather than one big mess.

 

Lateral flow tests seem to be a form of paper chromatography.

 

In the Coal Board labs, we employed 'gas chromatography'.. in which a sample of gas.. typically a mine air sample, was passed through a column of stuff which separated individual gaseous components, which could then be identified and measured as they passed over some form of detector. The results came up on a meter, or a chart.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatography

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19 hours ago, Stuart.C said:

And this is a positive result, from my 5 year old Grandson 3 weeks

And that's what used to grind me gears with whole face mask thing.... You'd go in the supermarket and you had to wear your mask but there be hords of kids not wearing masks because they didn't have to!!!!! 

Hope ya grandson is making a good recovery. 

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Ube,

Day 1 he complained his head hurt (not headache)

Night time same day, he woke up shouting the house is on fire, never done that before.

It's a fairly new house so has many smoke detectors, apparently hallucination is a symptom.

 

That was it, apart from the whole family being in isolation for 10days.

Daughter in Law works from home so no change.

My Son was off with the kids.

 

Track and Trace were on the phone within minutes of the email confirming positive PCR test result.

 

At least 2 or 3 other kids in the class caught it.

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Hope your grandson is better, it’s worrying when you send kids to school and they return home with an unwanted guest. Irresponsible if the teachers aren’t vaccinated and terrible for the kids.

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Nonna, yes he appears to be O.K

I don't know if the teacher was vaccinated but once found positive all the kids were sent home as it's a small village school and it was the last week as well.

 

What was slightly odd was he didn't test positive (lateral flow) untill day 6.

Daughter in Law originally qualified and worked as a Childrens Nurse and now works for Public Health England so she'd been testing the whole family regularly since the test kits have been freely available.

This was mid isolation when Grandson and Grand daughter were in the care of my son,,,,

 

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My grandson tested positive some time ago by one of these quick tests but then was tested “ properly” and he was negative. It had us scared and a lot of kids in his class had to stay home but he’s been fully vaccinated now and has been with us to Sicily ( now returning) much to his sorrow.

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