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Since lockdown ive got into a couple of things on American U TUBE,,,

High Desert and United states constituion,,,

Changed my opinion of America completely,,,mainly due to their Racism from the Police forces,,

 

Edit,, sorry this should have probably gone under the Politics thread...

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Margie is right. I keep popping in to see how you all are. Thankyou all so much for your posts.   I'm afraid we are not very well the pair of us. This must be the 'Long Covid' that we hear a

I really wish that more people were afraid. For their own safety.    I don't think anyone who hasn't witnessed in reality a person down on their hands and knees gasping  with a chest full of

Am in total dismay at the human race. It's becoming more like Mad Max at the moment.        This me me society we have created cares only about themselves: I'm alright Jack, the rest of you can f

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You are correct Ben, this thread is becoming political, unless the whole thing is of course to achieve a political agenda, so could you please put your political opinions on the "Anything Political" thread please so  that those of us who do not want to read your political views can avoid them.

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EY UP Commo,,...........was you agreeing with me or having a go at me ?

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I doubt that few people find shopping a pleasure. Not having to go to the shops gives me time to do more interesting or essential things at home. It was not until the enforced lockdown that I even thought about not going to the shops. I would get in the car and drive to Newark to buy something that cost less than the fuel used. Now I can place my order and it arrives the next day. If I want banter I can walk to the local - at least I will do when that gets back to normal. I’m buggered if I’m going to reserve a table to to get a pint. Will ‘normality’ ever return?

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We are all different Phil.................thank the Lord,,....and i'm convinced that what you call normality will never return.........

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2 hours ago, nonnaB said:

My thoughts are with the citizens of USA. Their hands are tied through the fault of an vain, stroppy and ignorant president. He's not fit to walk the ground of a once great country. He's brought the whole country down to his level. What exactly has he got in his head?

 

My comments were about the current state of affairs concerning the virus, sorry if it got " political "  Please delete if it offends. It certainly wasn't my intention. I just see this virus destroying the world and it makes me so sad.

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There are certain aspects of  the CV situation that can’t avoid being political, and in most cases I won’t be moving posts into different threads.

 

Take one example today. The media made a big thing of Trump wearing a face mask in public and announcing that they were a good thing; previously he’d ridiculed them as being unnecessary.

 

That story is about CV and it’s political. It could fit in either thread.

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I hope this sad notice is going to have some effect, but still a lot of people who think like they've been told that it will go away and that 99% is harmless. How can they be so naive when so many are dying and so many more are contracting this virus. Surely someone more in authority can take over from the president and get this over that it won't go away and even 1 % is dangerous. 

I am so sorry I keep going on about this but I feel very strongly that it's not being taken seriously by the person in command. We were the first country after China and our results shot up at an alarming rate. Even I said at the beginning that China was a long way from Italy and surely we couldn't get it. How wrong and naive was I?

i really don't want to go on anymore saying anything about CV , I think I've said my point and hope I don't upset anyone by it but all take care and stay safe.

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Recent evidence suggests that the virus has been out there for some time - and not just in China. Scientists have been testing old water samples in several European countries and found evidence of the virus from 2019. It is quite possible that it was out there in a form that people just didn't notice for some time. Even today many sufferers don't realise they had it. The serious cases were likely just assumed to be pneumonia.

 

The virus differs slightly from one part of the world to another. Examining the different strains suggests that most UK infections came from places like Italy and Spain, not China. Even if it wasn't in the UK last year, the sheer volume of holiday traffic to places like Northern Italy and Spain over Xmas/New Year  could have brought loads of cases into the UK before we even knew it existed.

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Yes I've heard that too but don't think we will ever know. I think we all will blame other countries. We have a very high influx of Chinese who work in Milan in the fashion industry so it seems logical to put the fault to them but wherever it's from it's created a disaster.

We even have a Chinese family in the village. They run a bar the most popular one in the village. The wife was in China when the virus hit here. She was stuck there, not in wahun but further north. She couldn't get back home. I thought the locals ( mostly old country folk) wouldn't go back to them but they have. They are lovely people and everyone has accepted them.

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One of the guys at the local supermarket that I use told me a few weeks ago that something went through the staff there last December that made some of 'em wish they could die.  Eventually things did improve and no one died but they still wonder to this day just what it was.

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13 minutes ago, loppylugs said:

One of the guys at the local supermarket that I use told me a few weeks ago that something went through the staff there last December ....

Similar story from my sister who lives in Southern Ireland . She went to her doctors in December and whilst there the doc asked if she had had a pneumonia jab . 

My sister replied no and without asking her if she wanted a jab , the doc went out the room , fetched a dose of the serum and jabbed it in her arm , saying that she had lost at least 4 elderly patients to pneumonia in the previous few weeks .

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I'd have probably grabbed it and given her a jab to the posterior!  No one!  dr. or anyone else is sticking anything into this old dog without first, explaining what it is and why it's a good idea.  Secondly they'd better ask my permission before going ahead.  To me, that is a form of assault.   Hope your sister is ok, David.

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3 hours ago, notty ash said:

Recent evidence suggests that the virus has been out there for some time - and not just in China. Scientists have been testing old water samples in several European countries and found evidence of the virus from 2019. It is quite possible that it was out there in a form that people just didn't notice for some time. Even today many sufferers don't realise they had it. The serious cases were likely just assumed to be pneumonia.

 

The virus differs slightly from one part of the world to another. Examining the different strains suggests that most UK infections came from places like Italy and Spain, not China. Even if it wasn't in the UK last year, the sheer volume of holiday traffic to places like Northern Italy and Spain over Xmas/New Year  could have brought loads of cases into the UK before we even knew it existed.

I thought the reason it was called Covid-19 was to do with its 'discovery' in 2019.

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10 minutes ago, The Pianoman said:

I thought the reason it was called Covid-19 was to do with its 'discovery' in 2019.

Officially, it was identified in China in December 2019 as a new disease, but has been traced back subsequently to earlier in the year.

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There was a chest infection going around late last year. Loads of people had it, think I picked it up whilst I was invigilating at the school. It was a really bad chest infection, made it hard to breath but a course of anti-biotics helped although the cough lingered a while after. 

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The original name was nCoV-2019, which stood for novel coronavirus, discovered in 2019.

MERS stands for Middle East Respiratory Syndrome. It was named so because the deadly virus was first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012.

Likewise with the swine flu pandemic of 2009, now renamed H1N1. 

The naming of these diseases  had unforeseen economic consequences so Covid - 19 was used to avoid any stigma.

WHO.

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2 hours ago, notty ash said:

Officially, it was identified in China in December 2019 as a new disease, but has been traced back subsequently to earlier in the year.

I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before but I’d need to plough through 47 pages of this thread.

In October last year my son went to Japan for 3 weeks to watch the Rugby World Cup. He returned in early November.  For the last week of his trip he was poorly with a temperature, bad cough etc.  He was still ill when he came to us for Christmas and spent most of the time lying on the sofa and coughing.  I insisted he make an appointment with his GP when he got back home, which he did.  The doctor was in two minds whether to call an ambulance for him as his oxygen levels were so low.  However she put him on a course of steroids and antibiotics which slowly did the trick, but he did have to go to hospital for X-rays too.  
We and the other Christmas house guests were perfectly fine and never caught the virus from our lad.  One of our party was 89 at the time too.  

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