Coronavirus

[notty ash 281]

There's a story in the news that he inherited a view from his grandfather that any kind of illness is a sign of personal weakness.

 

Indications are that he had the virus several days at the very least before he admitted the fact - quite possibly longer. This included attending the presidential debate and a garden party with crowds of people, lots of hugging, few face masks etc.

 

Normally you only need oxygen in the later stages of the virus, not in the first few days. His staff refuse to say when he last had a negative test. Very suspicious IMHO

[DJ360 5,533]

4 hours ago, notty ash said:

There's a story in the news that he inherited a view from his grandfather that any kind of illness is a sign of personal weakness.

 

 Unless you have bone spurs and they get you out of fighting for the country you claim to love.

 

 

If there is an obtuse, dishonest, misleading way of exploiting Covid.. you can be sure that the Tangerine Muppet will find it and use it.

[Oztalgian 2,301]

The Great Orange Plonker goes into hospital with Covid 19 and emerges three days later fully cured? Where have we heard this before?

Oh yes! he must be the Messiah

[Beekay 2,891]

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy !

[Stavertongirl 1,463]

Seems like we will be in local lockdown from Friday judging by the news. It was surely obvious by what had happened in Manchester and was it Glasgow in Scotland what would happen when the students arrived here. All kudos to the university for doing tests on, I believe all or a majority, of the students whether showing symptoms or not, were tested pity more of this isn’t done. There are outbreaks at 2 prisons as well swelling the numbers, that must be a nightmare scenario to control, wonder if visitors are checked in any way (temperature possibly) before being allowed in? 
I had a look at the map on Nottinghamlive to see how bad it is where I live, luckily it is the lightest colour, the darkest colours are more centred around Nottingham itself, Radford etc and West Bridgford. The latter used to have a student population way back in the mists of time when I was in my 20’s ( not quite as far back as the dinosaurs but nearly!) presume this will be the reason?
The new measures won’t make that much difference to me as I am doing them anyway. It is just a bit frustrating as it seems the original lockdown gains seem to have been frittered away (track & trace shambles being an example) but perhaps it was enevitable (spelling?) this would happen?
I do go once a week (either Saturday or Sunday) to a local eating place, we sit outside. This week they had put up gazebo like things around 3 tables so you were sheltered from the wind, so we sat in one of those. We asked if they were reserved first but they weren’t, the other 2 were empty but after we sat in 1 the other 2 got occupied. Noticed they had got patio heaters as well. Someone is thinking forwards. 
The only thing that is a bit annoying is seeing students on tv complaining they have to isolate for 14 days. For heavens sake it is just 14 days and at that age it isn’t anything, try losing nearly a year at my age then you can whinge. 

[radfordred 5,453]

25 minutes ago, Stavertongirl said:

The only thing that is a bit annoying is seeing students on tv complaining they have to isolate for 14 days

 

I do feel for the young & the fit & well, they have little or no risk of dying of Coronavirus, they even have to have a test to see if they have this deadly virus  they should be allowed to get on with their lives as normal.

[nonnaB 4,167]

Can sympathize with U.K. for so many new cases every day, yes it's hard for any kind of quarantine or isolation. There are those who are so afraid to leave their homes with fear of contracting this virus. Like us we are learning to live with it and it's not pleasant.

[radfordred 5,453]

This virus is going nowhere, even with a vaccine it will not disappear, flu hasn't so why should corona? Safeguard the vulnerable, get on with your lives, follow consistent & sensible rules, let people decide what they can & can not do, if you don't feel safe don't do it, if you do it, be sensible.  

 

[Brew 4,210]

Sounds good RR but can you define 'safeguard the vulnerable' whilst allowing everyone not vulnerable going about their daily business?

[philmayfield 4,346]

‘Be sensible’. The problem is that a huge swathe of the population are not sensible and never will be, so there has to be rules to protect them from their own ignorance. Sadly the good have to suffer with the bad.

[TBI 2,351]

4 hours ago, radfordred said:

 

I do feel for the young & the fit & well, they have little or no risk of dying of Coronavirus, they even have to have a test to see if they have this deadly virus  they should be allowed to get on with their lives as normal.

Yes, they certainly do have the lowest risk of dying. Unfortunately, as a social group, they also have the greatest capacity to spread it to those who may be at the highest risk.

 

[nonnaB 4,167]

We are worried we may be heading for a further lockdown. Our new cases are rising too much. Today 3678. 31 deaths. There are 3 epicentres and it seems we are one of them. Hey ho if it happens...it happens .

[Oztalgian 2,301]

nonnaB,

Our news media are reporting that the Italian government has mandated the use of wearing masks outdoors in Italy.

You and yours take care 

[nonnaB 4,167]

Yes OZ directly after i posted yesterday nothing was said about lockdown but we still have to be vigilant by wearing masks outdoors which most people have been doing anyway. He also said to be careful in family if some are working away or if someone is visiting you from the next town say because you never know who theyve been in contact with. We are now so used to wearing them thats its natural to put them on before we go out. It may be annoying to some but im glad our govt is taking care of us. 

[Oztalgian 2,301]

nonnaB I bet the citizens of the USA wish they could say the same as they have the GOP(Great Orange Plonker) looking after them.

[nonnaB 4,167]

Just heard today that my son's neice has been sent home from school and the school has closed. There is one child that has contracted the virus. My DIL said to me not to be offended if she asked us not to hug and kiss my grandchildren when they come in. A very wise decision as they all catch the same buses to scoll in the mornings ( there are 4 coaches which take them to Alba.)  Waiting to hear what cases tv brings us today. Keep safe all.

Also the nursery school has closed due to an infection of one of the children.

4,458new cases 

[radfordred 5,453]

Nottingham now showing the highest rate of Coronavirus cases in England  EIEIEIO up the coronavirus league we go!  

 

At least we are top of something  well done Nottingham!

[nonnaB 4,167]

Sorry to hear that . Hope everyone keeps safe.

[nonnaB 4,167]

On 8 ottobre 2020 at 7:27 PM, radfordred said:

Nottingham now showing the highest rate of Coronavirus cases in England  EIEIEIO up the coronavirus league we go!  

 

At least we are top of something  well done Nottingham!

 

Yes i heard that on our news.

[nonnaB 4,167]

I've been trying to read about covid and Nottingham but the page keeps on renewing , it's so annoying. At the moment it's aperitif time here and all the younger generation is out and about for their social gatherings. Few masks, sitting close to other tables and hanging round. This was just on news in Padova and Milan. Then we get annoyed because they don't help themselves or others in keeping this virus at bay. 

We get good news only to be followed by bad news. 

[Stavertongirl 1,463]

I saw a report saying there are now nearly 1500 confirmed cases at the University. (Didn’t realise there are nearly 50,000 students in Nottingham but then everywhere you look there is student accommodation.) Although this is a worrying figure it is good to know they are being picked up, hopefully with at least some of their contacts. I do think the university is doing a good job with its testing and that this will eventually get our figures a bit more under control fingers crossed.

I was a bit bemused by Comments by the head of public health In Nottingham who expressed surprise that our figures had suddenly spiked. Hasn’t she noticed what happened in Manchester and other university towns when the students arrived? I think 4 out of the top 5 in the list are university towns, not sure about the other one I have never heard of it!! 
I am not blaming the students in anyway, their accommodation either in the campus or outside probably isn’t the best for social distancing but I do hope they are sticking to the self isolating protocol. It only takes a couple of people who have no symptoms to spread it unfortunately, plus those who don’t follow the guidelines in the general population of which there are still a few. (can’t understand why standing 6’ away from the person in front of you in the queue is so hard especially when there are markings on the floor).
 

[catfan 14,500]

But how many of those test results are accurate ?

[The Engineer 485]

I see they are now trialling the efficacy of the BCG (TB) vaccine in reducing seriousness of C-19 infection (and also note that this was suggested in the Lancet in April so why the delay in progress?).

Though many of us had the jab when in early teens, its protection apparently wanes as the years go by so if it proves useful, we'd need a booster (priority to be given to health care workers).

I read that BCG has not been used routinely in the UK since 2005, but I wonder whether this (and other various childhood inoculations) is why young 'uns have few or no symptoms of C-19?

[Jill Sparrow 8,536]

Was that the jab involving 6 needles, given at secondary school?

 

I am seriously needle phobic and refused to have it. My response would be no different now.

[nonnaB 4,167]

9 minutes ago, Jill Sparrow said:

Was that the jab involving 6 needles, given at secondary school?

 

I am seriously needle phobic and refused to have it. My response would be no different now.

 

Jill I think it was but I can't remember it hurting like an ordinary hypodermic needle.  After all the times I've had to have a needle stuck into me I'm now immune.